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[Michael Dossett <phainopepla@yahoo.com>]

Triple Crown is indeed a USDA release and is not patented.  For a variety of 
reasons, USDA has not patented any of its blackberries (can't speak to any of 
it's other releases), but is coming under increased pressure from the 
industry to do so.  Within the next few years, new blackberry releases from 
the USDA's program here in Corvallis will probably all be patented.

As for the putative primocane fruiting, my guess is that this is a strong 
"lateral" that broke bud from the crown of the plant and is not truly a 
primocane.  I have seen Triple Crown do this on a couple of occaisions.  
While it is not common, it's not unheard of either.  If this were my plant 
and I wanted to cover my bases, I would do two things.  First, I would save 
seed from a couple of the fruits that are currently ripe from this part of 
the plant.  These are most likely to be selfs unless there are other fall 
fruiting blackberries nearby which could have acted as a pollen source.  If 
it is a sport or some other genetic mutation you should see primocane 
fruiting in the resulting seedlings.  Second, I would mark the cane with 
flagging or in some other way.  Save it and don't prune it out at the end of 
the season.  Wait until next spring and see if any of the buds below the 
fruiting portion of this cane break and leaf out.  If they do then it is a
 primocane.  If they don't, then it was just a strong lateral coming from the 
crown of the plant.

Michael

Michael Dossett
Corvallis, Oregon
www.Mdossettphoto.com
phainopepla@yahoo.com


--- On Wed, 10/8/08, Mark Angermayer <hangermayer@isp.com> wrote:

> From: Mark Angermayer <hangermayer@isp.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Triple Crown blackberry
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 12:04 PM
> Jerry,
> 
> I agree with Hal, Triple Crown is not patented.  It was put
> out by the USDA.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but
> I'm thinking the USDA doesn't patent any of their
> releases.  Has anyone out there seen a USDA release that was
> patented?
> 
> Mark
> KS
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Jwlehman@aol.com 
>   To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org 
>   Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 10:32 AM
>   Subject: [NAFEX] Triple Crown blackberry
> 
> 
>   My triple Crown blackberries produce large crops of
> berries every summer. 
> 
>   Suddenly one is bearing really nice fall berries, ripe
> now.  Has anyone else experienced the same?  Could this be a
> seedling from random fruit that dropped? 
> 
>   The Univ. of IL holds the patent. Would they be
> interested?
> 
>   Jerry 
>     
> 
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