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["Martha L. Davis" <martha_davis@earthlink.net>]

Tom, 
I think there may be a lot of people interested in late blooming varieties or 
otherwise frost hardy ones.  Bring it on when you have some time.  As far as 
the Grimes goes.  I like it,  I have questions about it ripening here.  There 
was a fellow here is the 1960ies who if he wasn't a NAFEX member ought to 
have been.  His comment at that time was that it wasn't as warm here as 
Grimes Golden likes and that it wouldn't ripen properly.  Now things may have 
warmed up some since then and maybe  I should try it anyway, but we still 
have only perhaps 2 weeks when it gets into the 90ties and that is June not 
August.

Martha

-----Original Message-----
>From: Burford <burford@msn.com>
>Sent: Mar 25, 2008 12:23 PM
>To: "Martha L. Davis" <martha_davis@earthlink.net>, nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
>Cc: Debbie Lienhart <debbie@debbielienhart.com>
>Subject: Re: nafex Digest, Vol 62, Issue 51
>
>Martha, you day length based reference is so pertinent, as well as re-bloom 
>consideration.  I have seen the Swiss apple,  Berner Rosen (Berne Rose), 
>given to me by Mr. Leuthardt, the elder, on Long Island, New York, about 
>1960 repeat bloom four times. Alps acclimation?
>
>When I "settle down" in May, I will go back to my bloom records and extract 
>the late blooming data for those on Sam's list that I experienced when I had 
>my 500 plus varieties  orchard (There are only 6 or 8 that I not did grow). 
>Some of the information dates to the 1950's; so, it will be interesting to 
>make comparison with current blooming date.....another testament to global 
>warming.
>
>Grimes Golden tends to bloom one or two days later than Golden Delicious. 
>If you want to make a side by side comparison, I will send you a stick of 
>Grimes to graft in your GD tree.
>
>Bye the bye, Rawl's Janet is a corruption of Ralls.
>
>Best wishes to all......Tom
>
>Tom Burford
>PO Box 367
>Monroe, VA 24574
>434-845-6074
>burford@msn.com
>appleprofessor@verizon.net
>
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>From: "Martha L. Davis" <martha_davis@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 1:45 PM
>To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Cc: "Tom Burford" <burford@msn.com>; "Debbie Lienhart" 
><debbie@debbielienhart.com>
>Subject: Re: nafex Digest, Vol 62, Issue 51
>
>> I have been researching late blooming apples for my location in high 
>> elevation New Mexico.  We get such big swings between day and night 
>> temperatures that early bloomers are likely to get frosted.  Sam's list is 
>> very similar to ones that I have come up with. Please note that I haven't 
>> been here long enough to test them here.  I may have more info after this 
>> bloom season.  You might also consider Elstar, Porter, King of the 
>> Pippins, Akane, Rubnette, Roxbury Russet, Smokehouse, Stearns & Fiesta.  I 
>> have noticed some inconsistencies between the Brogdale site & the New Book 
>> of Apples (England), versus Apples for the 21st Century (Oregon), versus 
>> Trees of Antiquity Catalogs(Califonia) versus other sources.  The bulk of 
>> things remains the same but some appear to be different perhaps less 
>> temperature based and more daylength based?  Golden Delicious is 
>> successful here so I have used that as a yardstick and I consider apples 
>> that bloom around the same time or later that is assuming that bloom time 
>> info is even available for the particular apples.
>>
>> Some of Sam's list I have dropped because we have a short cool season and 
>> ones like Arkansas Black probably won't ripen here.
>>
>>
>>
>> Martha Davis
>>
>>
>> Cc: Tom Burford <burford@msn.com>, Debbie Lienhart 
>> <debbie@debbielienhart.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Seeking late blooming apple scion
>> Date: Mar 25, 2008 11:24 AM
>> I was intrigued by your message and so I did a quick check of internet 
>> resources and these are some late-blooming apple cultivars according to 
>> various sources.  It would be good to have some of the list members who 
>> have experience with these cultivars comment on whether they really are 
>> late blooming. -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, Minn.
>>
>> Arkansas Black
>> Bess Pool
>> Braeburn
>> Bramley's Seedling (Bramley)
>> Court Pendu Plat
>> Crawley Beauty
>> Enterprise
>> Gala
>> Gilpin
>> Golden Delicious
>> Goldrush
>> Hauer
>> King
>> King Edward
>> May Queen
>> Newtown Pippin
>> Nittany
>> Northern Spy
>> Prairie Spy
>> Rawl's Janet
>> Red Rome
>> Reinette d' Orlean
>> Rome Beauty
>> Spigold
>> Suntan
>> Sweet Sixteen
>> Winter Banana
>> Wolf River
>> York Imperial
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