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[Neil T Lewis <lewisn@georgetown.edu>]

Thanks for the great response to my request for scion wood for Ashmead's 
Kernel and Pomme Gris. Don Yellman has kindly provided me with the wood I was 
seeking.

Neil Lewis


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>   1. lingonberries (Ernest Plutko)
>   2. Re: So close....strawberries (Road's End Farm)
>   3. Re: strawberries, replanting (Road's End Farm)
>   4. Re: strawberries, replanting (Bill Russell)
>   5. Re: scion wood (scott)
>   6. Strawberries (Jim Fruth)
>   7. Re: scion wood (Ginda Fisher)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:54:38 -0600
> From: "Ernest Plutko" <ernestplutko@wiktel.com>
> Subject: [NAFEX] lingonberries
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> Anyone have success growing lingonberries?  There are hundreds of
> square miles of sphagnum bogs near my house.  Very tasty
> lingonberries grow there but they are a pain to pick.  These are the
> kind that grow only a few inches above the sphagnum.  There are named
> European varieties available that grow higher and might be better to
> grow.  I was thinking about growing them in a sand peat mixture
> isolated from my garden soil. Wild cranberries grow right with the
> wild lingonberries and are much tastier than commercial cranberries
> and equally a pain to pick.  I'll probably try to grow cranberries
> and lingonberries together if I go with wild plants.
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:47:33 -0500
> From: Road's End Farm <organic87@frontiernet.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] So close....strawberries
> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> On Mar 2, 2008, at 9:02 AM, Jim Fruth wrote:
> 
> >     A year ago, I got no snow here in North Central Minnesota.  
> The 
> > frost
> > penetrated down 6', more is some places.  I hadn't covered my 
> > strawberries;
> > I never do. The plants were just as healthy as ever and I got the 
> same> amount of berries that I normally get.  Honestly, I don't 
> know what 
> > all the
> > fuss is about with people thinking they need to cover their 
> strawberry> plants.  You know, it is really difficult to kill a 
> strawberry plant.
> >     Could it be......................I have a soil test done 
> every 
> > year to
> > keep my strawberries at optimal fertility.  Could it be that 
> strawberry> patches that aren't maintained at proper levels of 
> fertility are the 
> > ones
> > that need winter protection?  Possibility?
> 
> I wonder if it's freeze-thaw cycles, and not primarily minimum 
> temperatures. Did your field stay solidly frozen all winter once it 
> froze up the first time?
> 
> --Rivka
> Finger Lakes NY; zone 5 mostly
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 23:27:43 -0500
> From: Road's End Farm <organic87@frontiernet.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] strawberries, replanting
> To: Bill Russell <shaman8@verizon.net>,       North American Fruit Explorers
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> On Mar 2, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Bill Russell wrote:
> 
> > It seems that my years old strawberry patch is declining from,  
> > probably, virus problems. So I plan to spray with weed killer and 
> 
> > replant. How long should I wait before replanting?
> >
> > ?
> > Bill Zone 5
> >
> > ?
> Can you plant them somewhere else for a while?
> 
> Current recommendations seem to be for at least two or three years' 
> 
> rotation inbetween strawberry plantings.
> 
> here's an example:
> 
> http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:3eI9x5za9fkJ: 
> www.newenglandvfc.org/sessions_05/strawberry/ 
> Crop%2520Rotations%2520for%2520Long- 
> term%2520Success%2520with%2520Strawberries.pdf+strawberries+rotation+dis 
> ease+control+cornell&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us
> 
> Some people are recommending brassicas in the rotations for disease 
> 
> control: an example of this:
> 
> http://apsjournals.apsnet.org/doi/abs/10.1094/PDIS-91-8-0964? 
> cookieSet=1&journalCode=pdis
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> 
> --Rivka
> Finger Lakes NY; zone 5 mostly
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 00:27:23 -0500
> From: "Bill Russell" <shaman@pennswoods.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] strawberries, replanting
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> Thanks
> 
> Bill
> 
> Visit Bill Russell's mushroom site www.brmushrooms.com
> Shaman healing www.intentronics.com
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Road's End Farm 
>  To: Bill Russell ; North American Fruit Explorers 
>  Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:27 PM
>  Subject: Re: [NAFEX] strawberries, replanting
> 
> 
> 
>  On Mar 2, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Bill Russell wrote:
> 
> 
>    It seems that my years old strawberry patch is declining from, 
> probably, virus problems. So I plan to spray with weed killer and 
> replant. How long should I wait before replanting?
> 
> 
>     
>    Bill Zone 5
> 
> 
>     
> 
>  Can you plant them somewhere else for a while?
> 
>  Current recommendations seem to be for at least two or three 
> years' rotation inbetween strawberry plantings.
> 
>  here's an example:
> 
>  
> http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:3eI9x5za9fkJ:www.newenglandvfc.org/sessions_05/strawberry/Crop%2520Rotations%2520for%2520Long-term%2520Success%2520with%2520Strawberries.pdf+strawberries+rotation+disease+control+cornell&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us
> 
>  Some people are recommending brassicas in the rotations for 
> disease control: an example of this:
> 
>  http://apsjournals.apsnet.org/doi/abs/10.1094/PDIS-91-8-
> 0964?cookieSet=1&journalCode=pdis
> 
>  --Rivka
>  Finger Lakes NY; zone 5 mostly
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:47:40 +0700
> From: "scott" <jangothard@arkansas.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] scion wood
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> Neil, have you gotten any scions yet? I have Ashmead's Kernel, but 
> not the 
> other.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Neil T Lewis" <lewisn@georgetown.edu>
> To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:14 PM
> Subject: [NAFEX] scion wood
> 
> 
> > Would any fellow NAFEX members be able to supply me with (a small 
> amount 
> > of) scion wood for Ashmead's Kernel and Pomme Gris apple trees?
> >
> > Thanks for any help you can provide. Incidentally, I live in 
> suburban 
> > Maryland near the Beltsville ag. station.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 08:47:09 -0600
> From: "Jim Fruth" <jfruth@tds.net>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Strawberries
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> Mark said. "It's just that when they are covered for winter and 
> then 
> uncovered in
> spring, there is plenty of leafy green foliage and the plants look 
> healthy.This winter I didn't cover and the whole patch is brown 
> with some bits of
> small green foliage.  I think the plants will bounce back, but they 
> surelook better when covered"
> 
> Mark,
>    Do you mow your strawberries and give them some nitrogen in 
> late summer?
> 
>    Just as soon as the strawberries are through bearing and the 
> daughter 
> plants have ran, I mow the patch with my lawn mower set on high.  
> The idea 
> is to eliminate the old leaves from the old plants and allow the 
> new plants 
> a chance to see the sunlight.  The mowed leaves soon shrivel, their 
> disease(s) stopped from spreading, and they become mulch for next 
> year's 
> crop.
>    Here in Minnesota, the time to mow is before the end of August. 
> Where 
> you are depends upon the new growth.  If you forgot to mow your 
> patch and 
> the new leaves are nearly as tall as the old leaves, you've missed 
> your 
> 'window' of time for mowing.  The patch should be mowed at a time 
> when your 
> lawn mower can be set at a height that it mows the old leaves but 
> misses the 
> new leaves.
>    As soon as my patch is mowed, I spread Ammonium Nitrate.  
> Potassium 
> Nitrate or any non-urea, high nitrogen fertilizer should be fine.  
> I spread 
> so there is a crumb of fertilizer in every 1 to 4 square inches.  
> The new 
> growth needs nitrogen as the new plants grow and to develop next 
> year's 
> flower buds.
> 
> To Bill Russell:  Bill, instead of  eliminating your patch, try 
> mowing and 
> fertilizing.  Who knows, your patch might snap back.
> 
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
> Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:03:22 -0500
> From: Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] scion wood
> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> I have ashmead's kernal.  I have two tiny trees and a huge branch I 
> grafted 
> onto a wild crab apple several years back.  I really can only spare 
> wood 
> from the branch, and that's on a multi-grafted tree.  Although I 
> have no 
> evidence of virus problems, there's always a higher risk of that 
> from a 
> mult-frafted tree, so you might prefer some other source.  Let me 
> know, i'd 
> be happy to mail you a twig or two if you want it.
> ___
> Ginda
> 
> ...... Original Message .......
> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 11:14:37 -0500 Neil T Lewis 
> <lewisn@georgetown.edu> 
> wrote:
> >Would any fellow NAFEX members be able to supply me with (a small 
> amount 
> of) scion wood for Ashmead's Kernel and Pomme Gris apple trees?
> >
> >Thanks for any help you can provide. Incidentally, I live in 
> suburban 
> Maryland near the Beltsville ag. station.
> >
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