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["Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>]

Also worth mentioning is that P. spinosa has diploid (2x) and tetraploid (4x) forms found in Nature.   It was found that P. domestica (which is 6x) was the result of a cross between 4x P. spinosa and 2x P. cerasifera to give a 3x hybrid that spontaneously doubled it's chromosomes to give the 6x P. domestica.  The whole process was duplicated artificially and the result was identical to wild P. domestica.
I obtained some 4x P. spinosa with the idea of creating some of my own P. domestica type hybrids.  The 4x has the larger fruit of the two (2x and 4x) forms.
-Lon Rombough
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On Oct 29, 2007, at 9:47 AM, MARIE ASHTON wrote:



Here is a little more information on P. spinosa subspecies:
http://www.rhs.org.uk/WhatsOn/gardens/rosemoor/archive/rosemoorpom04mar.asp

And here is a nursery selling these subspecies (unfortunately it is in 
England):
http://www.bluebellnursery.com/cgi-bin/catalogue.cgi?cat=t&genus=Prunus&initial=P

Regards,
Richard Ashton
Oak Creek Orchard
www.oakcreekorchard.com
bwoodtx@verizon.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Spidra Webster" <spidra@speakeasy.net>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 1:11 AM
Subject: [NAFEX] Sloe Cultivars?


> I've been enjoying a number of British podcasts and blogs and many of
> them have talked about sloes and homemade sloe gin.  Which has fired
> my desire to add Prunus spinosa to my edible landscape.  However, not
> only have I only found one US nursery selling it (so far), my quick
> Googling hasn't turned up any information about improved cultivars.
> Are there none?  If so, is that because it comes true from seed or is
> it because sloes are "good enough" for sloe gin and haven't needed
> any improvement?  I just want to know what's out there before I pull
> the trigger and make an impulse purchase.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Megan Lynch
>
> Berkeley, CA
> Zone 9b
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