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  • From: "MARIE ASHTON" <bwoodtx@verizon.net>
  • To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Granny Smith and R.I. Greening
  • Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:52:25 -0500


As someone said earlier, about the best apples, it depends on where they are grown and even the cultural conditions under which they are grown.
 
As to what the average consumer wants, nearly ever fruit buyer that I know say "people buy fruit with their eyes". If it looks good, with a bright, glossy color and it is firm, then it will sell.
 
Granny Smith as grown in Central Texas, with our long hot summers, is one of the few really crisp apples we can grow this far south. Most of the good apples that are grown further north, when grown here are not crisp. So, if you are in prime apple country Granny Smith is not a very great apple but if you are in the south it is a good variety.
 
The best apples besides Granny Smith in this country are "summer" apples that get ripe before it really gets hot in our summers. Holland is one of the best of the red summer apples, here and it is just a localized variety in central and north Texas and little known outside our area.
 
Regards,
Richard Ashton
Oak Creek Orchard
 
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Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:10 PM
Subject: [NAFEX] Granny Smith and R.I. Greening

Alan Haigh, The Home Orchard Co., Carmel NY, Zone 6

    Growers grow what sells, they don't hype apples, they don't advertise, they simply respond to demand and grow what is profitable.  We fruit worshipers are not the primary demographic here.  Sorry, but we're an extreme minority and we don't taste fruit the same way as most consumers.
     How do most Americans choose the apples they buy?  I really don't know (hell, how do they choose their presidents).  I do go to a huge apple picking party every year where hundreds of people pick bags of apples to take home and can choose from a large number of varieties.  The Galas and Empires go first- they're so nice and red!  When they're all gone the Tompkins King and Macouns start to go.  The Rhode Island Greenings are starting to ripen up then and no one picks them.  Even when later ripening varieties are gone, picked too green, the Greenings remain; Year after year, same story.
      To my taste this apple is boring even if it is better than Granny Smith as grown here.  Of course our climate is too short to properly ripen G S, as is the climate in Washington where most are grown.  If you cut one open, the seeds are never really dark and the apples taste chalky as unripe apples often do.  I hear Granny Smith is a wonderful apple as grown in parts of Australia.   However, you have to admit that its’ name is just adorable.
      For a tart apple I like Brambley's Seedlling, Cox, Braeburn and especially Goldrush after it’s been stored for over a month.  Of course this is based on how they taste grown here- Braeburn often tastes like cardboard out of a grocery store.  This is all a matter of personal taste; I happen to like dense apples with high levels of soluble solids or brix as they say in viniculture.
Alan Haigh, The Home Orchard Co.c

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