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- From: <dmnorton@royaloakfarmorchard.com>
- To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Boron and other things
- Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 14:33:58 -0500
"Chemical agriculture is where superstition
abounds. Every chemist worth his or her salt KNOWS how
delicate and subtle the chemical equilibria
of biological reactions is, and yet there is the
superstition that you can pour nitrogen, phosphate and
chloride salts on the land and burn its
organic matter up, wreck its microbiology, dump toxic
chemicals on crops and then the food will be healthy
to eat. It takes mountains of faith - or
superstition - to believe such utter bilge."
Well, since we tried to grow 10,000 apples trees organically for 3 years and almost lost over half of them to pests and disease, we came to the conclusion that we would have to "believe such utter bilge", burn organic matter up, wreck its microbiology and dump toxic chemicals on crops. Sorry folks, some of us grow fruit for a living!
Dennis Norton
Royal Oak Farm Orchard
http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com
http://www.theorchardkeeper.blogspot.com
http://www.revivalhymn.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Nave" <jmichaelnave@yahoo.com>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Boron and other things
Great post, especially this paragraph:
"Chemical agriculture is where superstition
abounds. Every chemist worth his or her salt KNOWS how
delicate and subtle the chemical equilibria
of biological reactions is, and yet there is the
superstition that you can pour nitrogen, phosphate and
chloride salts on the land and burn its
organic matter up, wreck its microbiology, dump toxic
chemicals on crops and then the food will be healthy
to eat. It takes mountains of faith - or
superstition - to believe such utter bilge."
--- Dylan Ford <dford@suffolk.lib.ny.us> wrote:
Dear NAFEX Folks,
Last year I began writing an article I hoped to
place in Pomona regarding
four major new concepts I have learned in recent
years about growing things.
I thought all four were important enough to share
with this group (and
possibly others), but unfortunately I only got
halfway through the writing
when other things came up that took precedence on my
time. I do not know
when I will get a chance to finish this, but I
thought I would post the
first half now (since it deals in part with Boron, a
subject that has come
up recently), and when I am able to write the second
half, I'll try to
publish the whole thing in Pomona in the future. I
hope others will find
this info as interesting and helpful as I did. It is
fairly long.
dylan
I will remember 2005 as a year of great learning for
me. I am only in the
beginner-stage of taking full advantage of some of
these new understandings,
but I am already convinced of their importance to
growing non-toxic food
that resonates with life energy, to revitalizing our
soils, and to restoring
a sane approach to agriculture and environment.
To avoid antagonizing any of my fruit-growing
brethren or wasting their
valuable time, I will provide a friendly warning
here: Conventional chemical
growers who think the Organic approach is
sentimental Luddite nonsense
probably would be better off reading no further, as
this material may tend
to irritate them, and I have no desire to do that.
I have been gardening organically for 35 years,
enduring many
disappointments and failures in that time, but
always getting nearer the
goal of growing vital, unblemished fruits and
vegetables without the crutch
of chemical fertilizers or pesticides of any kind.
When I began trying to
grow fruit I discovered that the difficulties I had
experienced in the
garden (insects, critters, fungi) were "small
potatoes" compared to what I
was letting myself in for now. At this time I also
began to have a troubling
intuition that something fundamental was missing
from my overall wisdom,
something that wasn't to be gleaned in poring over
standard paint-by-numbers
organic texts.
For much of the time that I have gardened I was
aware that preceding the
Organic movement in the US of A, there was a more
eccentric philosophy
espoused in Europe by a scholar named Rudolf
Steiner, who put forth the
notion that what went lacking in modern agriculture
was the spirituality,
and the focussed power of the farmer's intent. He
acknowledged the existence
and active connivance in the cycles of Nature of a
range of incorporeal
entities (elementals, devas, sylphs, etc.,) and
forms of vital energy not
(yet) recognized by official science (etheric,
astral, etc.,).
snip
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[NAFEX] Frost protection,
Jim Fruth, 04/02/2007
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[NAFEX] Boron and other things,
Dylan Ford, 04/02/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Boron and other things,
Michael Nave, 04/04/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Boron and other things,
dmnorton, 04/04/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Boron and other things,
Erdman, James, 04/04/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Boron and other things,
Stephen Sadler, 04/04/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] Boron and other things, dmnorton, 04/05/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Boron and other things,
Stephen Sadler, 04/04/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] Boron and other things, Michael Nave, 04/04/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Boron and other things,
Erdman, James, 04/04/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Boron and other things,
dmnorton, 04/04/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Boron and other things,
Michael Nave, 04/04/2007
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[NAFEX] Pomona Subscription,
Dylan Ford, 04/02/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] Pomona Subscription, natelson, 04/02/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Frost protection,
William C. Garthright, 04/03/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Frost protection,
John Smith, 04/03/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Frost protection,
William C. Garthright, 04/04/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] Frost protection, road's end farm, 04/04/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Frost protection,
William C. Garthright, 04/04/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Frost protection,
John Smith, 04/03/2007
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[NAFEX] Boron and other things,
Dylan Ford, 04/02/2007
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