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[Michael Nave <jmichaelnave@yahoo.com>]

Good to know. Thanks

--- Lee Reich <garden@leereich.com> wrote:

> I believe that the one that I got was Noir of Spain.
> 
> Lee Reich, PhD
> garden@leereich.com
> 
> Books by Lee Reich:
> The Pruning Book
> Weedless Gardening
> Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
> A Northeast Gardener's Year
> 
> 
> On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Michael Nave wrote:
> 
> > Which Whitman is a true M. Nigra? They allegedly
> have
> > more than one. I have grown their Shangri La. It
> was
> > not M. Nigra. It did not have stout branches or
> the
> > leaf texture of M. nigra.
> >
> >
> > --- Lee Reich <garden@leereich.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Whitman's M. nigra is a true M. nigra as evident
> >> from the leaf shape
> >> and texture and the stoutness of the branches as
> >> well as fruit
> >> quality and ripening time. The reason I grow it
> in a
> >> pot here in Zone
> >> 5 of New York is so that I can overwinter the pot
> in
> >> my very cool
> >> basement.
> >>
> >> Lee Reich, PhD
> >> garden@leereich.com
> >>
> >> Books by Lee Reich:
> >> The Pruning Book
> >> Weedless Gardening
> >> Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
> >> A Northeast Gardener's Year
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 24, 2007, at 12:18 AM, Michael Nave wrote:
> >>
> >>> Morus nigra is widely grown worldwide in areas
> >> with
> >>> zone 7 and zone 8 type temperatures and is
> >> reported
> >>> sometimes growing in zone 6 and maybe even zone
> 5.
> >> The
> >>> biggest problem we have in the US with regard to
> >> morus
> >>> nigra is that we have a relatively small amount
> of
> >>> true morus nigra germplasm.
> >>>
> >>> I don't believe Shangri La is morus nigra. It
> has
> >>> black fruit but it doesn't look like morus nigra
> >> at
> >>> all. And the fruit is not that good. Whitman is
> a
> >> very
> >>> good nursery but many nurseries seem to think
> that
> >>> black fruited mulberries must be morus nigra and
> >> that
> >>> simply isn't true.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure though why so many people in cooler
> >> areas
> >>> are fixated on growing morus nigra. I have two
> >> morus
> >>> nigra but prefer Silk Hope, Oscars and Illinois
> >>> Everbearing mulberries. I don't care whether
> they
> >> are
> >>> morus nigra, morus rubra etc. I just care how
> they
> >>> taste and how well they grow.
> >>>
> >>> But if you're set on morus nigra, try Ernie
> >>> Grimo(Grimo Nut Nursery) who I believe has a
> true
> >> zone
> >>> 7 morus nigra. Or you can request scionwood next
> >>> winter from the USDA's germplasm collection.
> They
> >> have
> >>> Shah Tut and a few other true morus nigra trees.
> I
> >>> think they even have a zone 5 or 6 morus nigra
> >> from
> >>> Russia.
> >>>
> >>> --- "drosehngs1@juno.com" <drosehngs1@juno.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Has anyone out there had success growing a
> black
> >>>> mulberry (morus nigra,
> >>>> not morus alba nor morus alba x rubra) on the
> >> east
> >>>> coast?  If so, what
> >>>> cultivar?
> >>>>
> >>>> Whitman Farms indicates morus nigra to be hardy
> >> to
> >>>> zone 7, and one
> >>>> variety (shangri-la) appears to be able to
> handle
> >>>> humidity (though I
> >>>> believe Lee Reich states this is a morus alba
> and
> >>>> rather bland).
> >>>>
> >>>> Please advise.  Thank you.
> >>>>
> >>>> George Drosehn (zone 7)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
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