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[Michael Nave <jmichaelnave@yahoo.com>]

Which Whitman is a true M. Nigra? They allegedly have
more than one. I have grown their Shangri La. It was
not M. Nigra. It did not have stout branches or the
leaf texture of M. nigra.


--- Lee Reich <garden@leereich.com> wrote:

> Whitman's M. nigra is a true M. nigra as evident
> from the leaf shape  
> and texture and the stoutness of the branches as
> well as fruit  
> quality and ripening time. The reason I grow it in a
> pot here in Zone  
> 5 of New York is so that I can overwinter the pot in
> my very cool  
> basement.
> 
> Lee Reich, PhD
> garden@leereich.com
> 
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> 
> On Mar 24, 2007, at 12:18 AM, Michael Nave wrote:
> 
> > Morus nigra is widely grown worldwide in areas
> with
> > zone 7 and zone 8 type temperatures and is
> reported
> > sometimes growing in zone 6 and maybe even zone 5.
> The
> > biggest problem we have in the US with regard to
> morus
> > nigra is that we have a relatively small amount of
> > true morus nigra germplasm.
> >
> > I don't believe Shangri La is morus nigra. It has
> > black fruit but it doesn't look like morus nigra
> at
> > all. And the fruit is not that good. Whitman is a
> very
> > good nursery but many nurseries seem to think that
> > black fruited mulberries must be morus nigra and
> that
> > simply isn't true.
> >
> > I'm not sure though why so many people in cooler
> areas
> > are fixated on growing morus nigra. I have two
> morus
> > nigra but prefer Silk Hope, Oscars and Illinois
> > Everbearing mulberries. I don't care whether they
> are
> > morus nigra, morus rubra etc. I just care how they
> > taste and how well they grow.
> >
> > But if you're set on morus nigra, try Ernie
> > Grimo(Grimo Nut Nursery) who I believe has a true
> zone
> > 7 morus nigra. Or you can request scionwood next
> > winter from the USDA's germplasm collection. They
> have
> > Shah Tut and a few other true morus nigra trees. I
> > think they even have a zone 5 or 6 morus nigra
> from
> > Russia.
> >
> > --- "drosehngs1@juno.com" <drosehngs1@juno.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Has anyone out there had success growing a black
> >> mulberry (morus nigra,
> >> not morus alba nor morus alba x rubra) on the
> east
> >> coast?  If so, what
> >> cultivar?
> >>
> >> Whitman Farms indicates morus nigra to be hardy
> to
> >> zone 7, and one
> >> variety (shangri-la) appears to be able to handle
> >> humidity (though I
> >> believe Lee Reich states this is a morus alba and
> >> rather bland).
> >>
> >> Please advise.  Thank you.
> >>
> >> George Drosehn (zone 7)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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