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[Hans Brinkmann <hans-brinkmann@t-online.de>]

Hallo Chris,
your "collection" of Pecan-tree-positions is very impressing!
Could you give me some measurements from your "Far North"
Carya illinoinensis nuts?
Your height example of 120 feet is very tall, compared with German trees.
Probably Carya are one of the tallest trees in your area?

I imported one lb of "Carlson 3" Pecans with the nut size: 14 x 28mm approx.

Ciao
Hans        Germany, zone 6 to 7





Chex schrieb:
> All of this talk about Pecan Trees has me wanting to share with you
> the fact that I live in close proximity to the northern most wild
> native stands of pecan in the world.  Just for the record, I believe
> it was Thomas Jefferson who named the pecan the "Illinois Nut" because
> that is where it is native to.  Pecan (Carya illinoinensis) trees were
> adapted to Georgia and are not native to there.  They are a
> Mississippi River Valley phenomenon from the Gulf of Mexico to almost
> as far north as Wisconsin's southern border.
>
> Pecan's Native Range:
> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=5345&flora_id=1
>
> You will notice that Georgia and some other places associated with a
> commercial pecan industry are not listed.
>
> For the last few years I have been marking the GPS location of the few
> native trees that remain and have been collecting the seeds,
> stratifying, and germinating them for planting.
>
> These pecan trees are unique in the fact that they are surviving on
> the border of USDA Hardiness Zone 5a and Zone 4b and they are able to
> ripen their nuts in a 165 day growing season with hot summers and cold
> winters.  The nuts are smaller than commercial nuts but have "more
> pecan flavor".
>
> USDA Hardiness Zone Map:
> http://www.ahs.org/pdfs/USDA_Map_3.03.pdf
>
> The most Northern native pecan trees are supposed to be located
> between Green Island and Belview, Iowa.   They are supposed to be able
> to be found in a protected water fowl sanctuary.  I only found two
> trees between a levy and the Mississippi River that were two young to
> bear.  There are supposed to be bearing trees but I could not locate
> them.
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=501st+Ave,+Green+Island,+Iowa&layer=&sll=42.162894,-90.322037&sspn=0.05675,0.171661&ie=UTF8&z=5&ll=43.165123,-90.087891&spn=14.290916,43.945313&t=h&om=1&iwloc=addr
>
> Adams Island near Camanche, Iowa:  Put your canoe into the Mississippi
> River at Iowa's Rock Creek State Park and make your way through slough
> to the South East side of Island.  Two pecan trees are over 120 ft
> tall.  There are a few younger bearing trees on a peninsula on the
> way to the island as well as some trees that are to young to bear on
> the shore at Rock Creek Park.
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Camanche,+Iowa&layer=&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=13&ll=41.700794,-90.319118&spn=0.057163,0.171661&t=h
>
> Swan Lake Road near New Boston, Illinois:  Some pecan trees can be
> found between the levy and the Mississippi River.   More pecan trees
> can be found near the intersection of Swan Lake Road and 20th Street.
> Follow 20th Street North a bit and there are a couple more pecan
> trees, you can even see them standing alone along the right side of
> the road right before the road splits on the satellite map.
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Swan+Lake+Rd+%26+20th+St,+New+Boston,+IL&layer=&sll=41.214304,-91.069965&sspn=0.057593,0.171661&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=14&ll=41.231218,-91.056576&spn=0.028789,0.085831&t=h
>
> Chris
> zone 5a, IL
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