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  • From: "loneroc" <loneroc@mwt.net>
  • To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] ? Baldwin & Minn 447 Zone 6 Idaho
  • Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 05:38:55 -0600

Hi Naomi,
 
I don't have much (read any) problem from codling moth here so I can't tell you how MN447 would fare.  I have two Zestars planted near my MN447 that are pretty susceptible to apple maggot (I really must spray a bit more), and I've not had any damage to my MN 447 crop.  Admittedly it's only my second year of cropping on MN447.  I should have gotten my first crop six years ago, but I dropped a silver maple on it and broke it off two feet above the ground.  Another reason I think silver maplesare the scummiest tree you can plant around here.  At least box elder (in the running for crappiest yard tree) doesn't hog space like the silver.
 
If you want wood contact me off line: loneroc@mwt.net
 
Steve H. Lone Rock, WI USDA zone 3 (or maybe 4 based on recent winters)
----- Original Message -----
From: Naomi
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] ? Baldwin & Minn 447 Zone 6 Idaho

Wow.  I could be very delighted if it were pest resistant also.  We have intense coddling moth problems here. That was a major part of my interest in Baldwin.  The tough skin might  give it some bug protection. 

 

As a rule I am very taken with crisp hard flavorful apples. 

 

Thank you for the wood offer.  If you ever need a goat I could send youÂ…Never mind.  Lol

But I do have some nice dairy and meat goats and I am working with polled genetics.

Naomi

Payette Idaho Zone 6

 


From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of loneroc
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 6:31 AM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] ? Baldwin & Minn 447 Zone 6 Idaho

 

Naomi,

 

I grow MN447 in SW WI and find that it is one of my finest apples--magnificently flavored, pest and disease resistant and a pretty good grower (it's a bit broomy).  It is still crisp in storage in mid February.  I get somewhere between 5 and 15 >90F days in a summer but very rarely reach 100F.

 

The single major flaw I've noticed is a tendency to form small star-shaped cracks around the stem.  I'm told that this is due to uneven water supply and plan to mulch and water my tree more this summer.  The cracks do dry and seal over (I'd use the word callus but that means something else to us apple grafters) but the cracking is probably a fatal flaw for commercial use of the variety.  The apples that have cracks shrivel more in storage and if rot sets in it's around the stem.  I suspect that you'd want to plant the tree in a soil that retains even moisture to help prevent or at least minimize the cracking flaw.  My soil here is alkaline sand--prickly pears abound on the prairies and sand dunes here.

 

I've heard that the University of MN is thinking of naming 447, but I don't know if it's true.  Perhaps if they named it 'Christmas Star' it would create a marketing niche and an explanation for the cracking in one fell swoop.  You may, of course, have all the budwood you want.  Contact me off list.

 

Steve Herje, Lone Rock, WI Zone 3/4

 

PS:  Ginda--I've got your Wickson scions cut and in the fridge (cut before our last cold spell to -25F or so).  Is there any time that I should not mail them to you? Perhaps you are heading off to Bermudaloneroc@mwt.net

 


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