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["hector black" <hblack1925@fastmail.fm>]

I've used the tanglefoot to keep the racoons from my muscadines.  Seems to 
me I've read that there is something toxic in the stuff, so I put a wrap of 
plastic around the trunk and then painted that.  First time in several years 
that we've been able to harvest those grapes.
   We put the wrap about 1 ft up the trunk from the ground and 18" in 
width.
   Hector Black  zone 6 middle TN


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <athagan@atlantic.net>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 7:17 PM
Subject: [NAFEX] 'Tree Tanglefoot' sticky wax for squirrels


> Tim,
>
> Do you put the sticky wax directly on the tree bark or on something
> like paper then wrap that around the tree?  This might be the thing
> for keeping the bushy tailed rodents out of my pomegranate tree.
>
> .....Alan.
>
> Quoting TIM INMAN <TIM@HISTORICINTERIORS.COM>:
>
> > I hope I'm doing this correctly.  I'm wanting to respond to message
> > 2 about
> > squirrels.
> >
> > I have had great results keeping squirrels out of my peach trees by
> > using
> > common 'Tree Tanglefoot' sticky wax.  When the peaches begin to
> > turn color -
> > which is exactly when my squirrels begin to get interested - I go
> > on the
> > attack with sticky wax.  I paint it about 30 to 36 inches above
> > ground all
> > around the trunk and the first low branches.  I go that high so
> > they won't
> > be able to just jump over it.  My observation is that when they get
> > one paw
> > full of this sticky stuff, they immediately loose interest in going
> > any
> > farther with my peaches.  Keeps 'em out for the duration of the
> > ripening
> > season for me.  I suggested this to one of our local commercial
> > orchards and
> > they tell me it is working for them, too.  I'm guessing that it
> > wouldn't be
> > necessary to treat every tree in the orchard if you have a lot of
> > trees.  I
> > think it is nasty enough stuff that 'any' contact would be too much
> > contact
> > for them.  I like it because it is completely harmless to the
> > animals.  Just
> > nasty to deal with.  Serves 'em right.  I get peaches and they get
> > to clean
> > off their sticky little paws.  Works on cherries, too.
> >
> > Tim Inman
> > Randolph, Ia  51649    Zone 4
> >
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> > >   1. Re: Selling pawpaws (mangodance)
> > >   2. Re: Squirrels (W3cmp@aol.com)
> > >   3. Re: Lingonberries (Brungardt, Sam)
> > >   4. Re: Selling pawpaws (Lucky Pittman)
> > >   5. Re: Squirrels & deer (mangodance)
> > >   6. Re: Squirrels & deer (Lucky Pittman)
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> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:42:22 -0400
> > > From: mangodance <bmn@iglou.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Selling pawpaws
> > > To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Message-ID: <4517EACE.4080303@iglou.com>
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> > >
> > > Hal Love wrote:
> > >
> > >> Our pawpaw crop is probably the worst ever. Wild pawpaws are
> > probably
> > >> the most common understory plant around here, and usually start
> > to drop
> > >> abundant fruit about this time each year. This year, I have seen
> > one
> > >> single fruit among hundreds of trees along our road. Usually,
> > the fruits
> > >> drop onto the pavement and splat, often covering sections of
> > road with
> > >> pawpaw mush. I noticed large numbers of flowers on the trees
> > this past
> > >> spring, so there must have been a problem with pollinators.
> > Anyone else
> > >> notice a lack of pawpaws?
> > >
> > > Pawpaws are notoriously poor pollinators.  However, with a little
> > help
> > > from growers, they will bear in good numbers.  Siting of plants
> > also
> > > will have an impact.  Wild pawpaws are an understory tree and
> > typically
> > > will not fruit as well as those grown out in the sunlight (like
> > most
> > > orchard trees).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:51:43 EDT
> > > From: W3cmp@aol.com
> > > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Squirrels
> > > To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> > > Message-ID: <bfe.568974d.324946ff@aol.com>
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> > >
> > > Hello all:
> > >     Squirrels are one of the biggest pains ever invented.  I
> > fight a
> > > constant battle against them every year.  Despite a resident hawk
> > who
> > > takes care of
> > > several every year, I end up using a have a heart trap to capture
> > them
> > > (peanut
> > > butter bait), and a bb gun to dispose of them.  I put them down
> > nearby
> > > ground
> > > hog holes to try to encourage the resident groundhogs to
> > relocate,
> > > preferably
> > > away from t he woods that border my orchard.  Squirrels can strip
> > a peach
> > > or
> > > apple tree in a couple days. They seem to prefer the peaches
> > after skin
> > > color
> > > changes but before the peaches are ripe.  They like sweeter apple
> >
> > > varieties
> > > like gala early in the apple ripening cycle, but will go after
> > just about
> > > anything.
> > >     I originally tried to relocate the squirrels but was
> > cautioned against
> > > doing that-they can travel several miles back to their "home",
> > i.e., my
> > > orchard, and moving them just causes someone else a problem.
> > >     I put groundhogs, possums, skunks and raccoons in the same
> > category as
> > > squirrels.  It's a never ending battle to keep them from
> > butchering up
> > > fruit as
> > > well.
> > >
> > >                                                    Chris
> > Patterson Zone 6
> > > SE
> > > Pa.
> > >
> > >
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> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:18:45 -0500
> > > From: "Brungardt, Sam" <Sam.Brungardt@state.mn.us>
> > > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Lingonberries
> > > To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Message-ID:
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> > <D577CC7D2E27894389723752BCAECBCF01BEB0C2@s-sp22.pca.state.mn.us>
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> > > Jim, I don't know any lingonberry growers, but I'll bet you could
> > find
> > > some if you contacted the folks at the Horticulture Dept. at the
> > Univ.
> > > of Wisconsin-Madison.  Prof. Eldon Stang worked on this crop for
> > a
> > > number of years.  He may be retired now, but there is probably
> > an
> > > extension fruit specialist who would know the growers in
> > Wisconsin and
> > > maybe Minnesota. -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, Minn.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> > > [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Jim Fruth
> > > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:59 AM
> > > To: NAFEX
> > > Subject: [NAFEX] Lingonberries
> > >
> > >
> > >    Does anyone grow Lingonberries to sell or know of a business
> > that
> > > wholesales Lingonberry Jam?
> > >
> > >    I tried growing them and failed.  I'll try again but would
> > prefer if
> > > I could buy from someone else.
> > >
> > > Jim Fruth
> > > Brambleberry Farm
> > > Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
> > > www.bberryfarm.com
> > > (218)568-8483 [Store]
> > > (218)831-7018 [My Cell]
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> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:28:35 -0500
> > > From: Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu>
> > > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Selling pawpaws
> > > To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.0.20060925101809.03147180@murraystate.edu>
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> > >
> > >
> > >>Hal Love wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Our pawpaw crop is probably the worst ever.
> > >>This year, I have seen one single fruit among hundreds of trees
> > >>along our road.
> > >
> > > Same here.  I've yet to see a single fruit on any A.triloba
> > anywhere
> > > in the county.
> > > Little grafted A.parviflora in the orchard had its typical good
> > crop,
> > > but none on any of the 'wild' pawpaws anywhere I've looked.
> > >
> > > Lucky Pittman
> > > USDA Cold Zone 6
> > > AHS Heat Zone 7
> > > Hopkinsville, KY
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:30:00 -0400
> > > From: mangodance <bmn@iglou.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Squirrels & deer
> > > To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Message-ID: <4517F5F8.8010709@iglou.com>
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> > >
> > > For those of you who cull them, but don't eat them, don't
> > overlook local
> > > wildlife rehab facilities that rehab hawks, eagles, owls, etc.  A
> > friend
> > > once spent 3 months culling them from his orchard and freezing
> > them.  A
> > > local rehabber was happy to get the feed.
> > >
> > > BTW, many rehabbers and sanctuaries also are in need of deer
> > meat.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 6
> > > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:46:09 -0500
> > > From: Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu>
> > > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Squirrels & deer
> > > To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.0.20060925104404.031aefb8@murraystate.edu>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> > >
> > > At 10:30 AM 9/25/2006, Barry wrote:
> > >>For those of you who cull them, but don't eat them, don't
> > overlook local
> > >>wildlife rehab facilities that rehab hawks, eagles, owls, etc.  A
> > friend
> > >>once spent 3 months culling them from his orchard and freezing
> > them.  A
> > >>local rehabber was happy to get the feed.
> > >
> > > Good point.
> > > We ran a raptor rehab center here at the lab for years, and I
> > was
> > > always on the lookout for roadkill squirrels, rabbits, and even
> > small
> > > opossums, to be fed to the birds.  Stopping to pick up roadkill
> > > critters mortified my kids even more than my leaf-hauling forays
> > > throughout the fall.
> > >
> > > Lucky
> > >
> > >
> > >
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