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["Luffman, Margie" <luffmanm@AGR.GC.CA>]

Hello. I don't believe that Richard St.Pierre is on this list so I will 
forward this message to him. He is no longer associated with the program he 
did out of the University of Saskatchewan. He is now affiliated with Plant 
Gene Resources of Canada at the Seed Genebank in Saskatoon. However, I am 
sure he would be able to comment on your concerns.

Margie
 
Margie Luffman 
Curator/Conservatrice
Canadian Clonal Genebank/Banque canadienne de Clones
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada/Agriculture et Agroalimentaire Canada
Telephone/Téléphone: 519-738-2251 ext. 474
Facsimile/Télécopieur: 519-738-2929
2585 County Road 20
Harrow, Ontario 
N0R 1G0 
luffmanm@agr.gc.ca
 
 Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada - Agriculture et Agroalimentaire Canada

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From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org 
[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Chex
Sent: June 22, 2006 1:50 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Saskatoon Selection

I'm going to have to find me a copy of Richard
St. Pierre's Amelanchier Manual.  Isn't Richard
on this elist?  I planted 8 northline
serviceberrries last year from Raintree.  There
were only maybe 10 berries this year and they
were kind of mealy and flavorless.  The reason I
chose saskatoons over blueberries is that my
focus is on edible landscaping.  Blueberries are
not a plant one can stick out and have living
here (soil is alkaline) if one rents a property 
at some point as a tenant will never care for
them.  I figure a saskatoon will still be there
unless someone makes a concerted effort to kill
them.  I am hoping that when the northlines
mature that they will be more appealing to the
taste buds. 

Chris
zone 5, IL

P.S. I moderate an elist on edible landscaping at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EdibleLandscape if
any members of this elist would like to share
some of their skills.




> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:55:12 -0400
> From: "Richard MURPHY" <murphman108@msn.com>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Saskatoon Selection
> To: "nafex" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> 
> Hello Ginda and All;
> 
> Down here in Massachusetts, nobody knows what a
> Saskatoon really is.
> It is actually a distant cousin of an apple.
> 
> As far as selecting the best kind 'for this
> area', (zone 5 / 6) it's a crap shoot. 
> The more you read, the more confused you'll
> get. So... whenever I set off to pork myself, I
> usually observe someone else's success first as
> a model, and modify accordingly.
> 
> Although the climate is totally different, go
> to
>
www.saskatoonfarm.com<http://www.saskatoonfarm.com/>.
> 
> See what Paul Hamer did.
> Read his opinions about the various cultivars
> of Amelanchier.
> 
> Then... buy 2 of each type, plant them and have
> fun!
> 
> A long time ago, I made the mistake of buying a
> un-named cultivar.
> Sterile piece of crap. Chucked it. Lesson
> learned.
> 
> Mike out at Burnt Ridge in Washington gave me a
> decent price on a boatload of Smokies, so I
> bought them and planted them in zone 4 Maine
> last year, in clayish soil.
> 
> Most of them immediately caught some kind of
> leaf crud, but they survived the winter. Some
> that defoliated early actually put out some
> suckers and they are still alive. (I thought
> they croaked last November!). Finally, this
> year I gave them all a dose of Clorothalonil
> and Malathion before bloom, and as of today the
> leaves are fine; no crud, no bugs either.
> 
> These plants definitely don't like to be
> planted in muck. Down the bottom of my lot, the
> earth is still spongey, and the plants did die.
> Some are growing moderately fast, some slow,
> they are all still too young to have fruit.
> 
> As far as soil fungus benefit... I can't
> comment, nor speculate responsibly. I have read
> Richard St. Pierre's Amelanchier Manual about
> 75 times (own a copy), and don't remember him
> mentioning that topic at all; but it doesn't
> mean it isn't a valid idea. Sounds like another
> experiment. I might consider trying it,
> somewhere far away from the big orchard just in
> case....
> 
> Right now, there just isn't enough data on
> Juneberries to draw on for this area.
> We should try to fix that. What a cool
> experiment.
> 
> Mr. Hamer also weighs in on the seedling vs.
> tissue babies................ Mostly true from
> seed.
> Seedlings may take another year to fruit.....
> 
> Why would anyone bother with these unknown
> berries when blueberries are so easy to grow??
> The taste. Send for a jar of jam etc and you
> will be hooked, as I was.
> Wow.
> 
> 
> Have fun.
> 
> Murph


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