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["Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva@Docshiva.org>]

I, too, am a supertaster, and am looking for Paw Paw varieties without that bitter aftertaste. 

 

With fruits I can separate out the bitter or other flavor I don’t like, and I will like the other flavors present.  One of my early posts – okay, a few of them – was looking for sources for Lavender Gem, a tangelolo.  With it’s largely grapefruit heritage, tangelolos have all the spritely and refreshing citrus flavor of grapefruit, but the ‘tang’ part just seems to shut down the bitterness gene.  Still looking… found a source in Southern CA, but they’re closing shop.  I also have similar problems with papaya – the varieties I can get in CA have an off-taste to me, but there are some Mexican varieties – that won’t grow here – that taste delicious. 

 

Stephen Sadler, Ph.D.

USDA 9, AHS heat zone 8,

Sacramento CA - Mediterranean climate

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Subject: [NAFEX] Seeking advice about paw paws

 

--Is there a reasonable expectation of getting tasty fruits from 
seedlings? Or do I need to purchase grafted trees (about $25 each 
from Raintree)? Being optimistic about the quality of seedlings, I 
would like to try raising the trees from seed, bu I'm getting too old 
to wait years for fruit and then be disappointed in the taste.--

 

Well, I've grown grafted and seedling pawpaws, and have grafted my own.

 

Purchased grafted pawpaws will produce fruit about 2 years earlier than

seedling trees (on average).  I'd say you'll start getting flowers (and

remember you have to have flowers on two different varieties to get fruit)

about 4 years after planting (might be 3-5).  Anybody's experience contradict

this?

 

Once you get flowers, it helps (and is very easy) to hand pollinate. 

 

Neal Peterson, founder of the PawPaw Foundation, now has his own varieties (3)

of 'scienfically bred/selected' varieties.  But I think you're looking at 2007 to

get trees from him as he only ships bareroot and only in the Spring. 

http://www.petersonpawpaws.com/index.php

 

Seedlings will produce fruit.  Sometimes they're small and sometimes they're large.  (Small

is 3 or so inches long and 2 wide (the fruits are kind of potato or been shaped).  Large are

4-5 inches long and 3 inches wide.  Given the size of the seeds (~1 inch) it can make

a difference in how much flesh there is.

 

Flavor.  I haven't tasted that many varieties.  But I loved Pawpaws until my wife, who is

a 'supertaster' (she is definitively more sensitive to taste and smells than I am), pointed

out the aftertaste of pawpaws which can be bitter, at least in some varieties.  Now

I don't like them nearly as much as I used to because I'm always looking for that

taste to be present.  Funny how the mind can emphasize or blind you to something

until it's pointed out, and then you can't go back to your previous blissful state.

 

Others have pointed out a local source to you which sounds excellent.  My BYFG group

usually has a Pawpaw tasting tour in September, to go and taste pawpaws in various

locations in PA.

 

Take care.

 

Chris Mauchline
SE PA, zone 6
40° 5' N 75° 51'W
~650 ft elevation