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["Thomas Olenio" <tolenio@sentex.net>]

Bruce,

It was a bumper crop for apples this season.  People in MS and LA need  
food.  It is harvest season now.  NAFEX members have tons of fruit on hand  
right now.  The math is simple.

All we have to do is consolidate, and add to another shipment headed that  
way.

You missing out our your meds again? (smle)

Later,
Tom

On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:44:41 -0400, Bruce Hansen  
<brucedhansen@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> So, it is unacceptable to discuss illegal aliens and the enormous damage
> done to America by their flooding over the border with winds of 800 miles
> per hour but it is ok to wax eloquent over a hurricane? It is  
> unacceptable
> to speak of the thousands of people killed in New York by ARAB murderers  
> but
> we can talk about 'natural' disasters? It is unacceptable to speak of our
> soldiers giving their lives in the WAR ON TERROR but it is ok to write  
> about
> flooding and death in Louisiana?
>
> What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Stephen Sadler
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:25 PM
> To: 'North American Fruit Explorers'
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Do-It-0urselves Katrina Relief
>
>
> As a former Red Cross worker, I can tell you that the American Red Cross
> (ARC)(and Red Crescent, too, is working on this disaster) can get blood,
> plasma, fluids, food, water, gasoline or diesel for generators, etc. in
> place as efficiently as possible given the scope of the disaster.  This  
> has
> been one of the worst in the world in terms of the difficulty of getting
> goods in to people in need.  Seldom does the agency have to deal with the
> combination of flood, destroyed roads, and snipers.
>
> The military has the best ability to move goods, and FEMA and Red Cross  
> have
> goods and volunteers available.  FEMA should be coordinating Red Cross  
> and
> the military, I would hope - someone has to.
>
> ARC could coordinate the delivery of, for example, IV fluid.  But it  
> would
> take longer to deliver that dedicated donation than to either deliver  
> their
> own stock or to purchase or get donated stock from a supply house.
>
> Money donations are a faster way to get that IV fluid (or anything else)  
> in
> place faster than a direct donation of the fluid (or whatever).  Large
> volume donations from suppliers are a different matter, and those  
> suppliers
> should contact FEMA or the ARC headquarters.  Local chapters should be  
> able
> to help coordinate such larger donations, as well - but they do that  
> through
> National, so one may as well contact them directly.
>
> Monetary donations earmarked for a specific tragedy, like this, are  
> great,
> and welcome. Of better use are non-designated donations.  ARC keeps money
> and goods on hand to try to deal with emergencies immediately, rather  
> than
> having to wait for the processing of earmarked donations.  That fund then
> needs to be replenished.  Americans tend to give amounts in proportion to
> the proximity of the tragedy to where they live.  As awful as 9/11 was,  
> much
> more money was earmarked for it than was needed.  Had it been available  
> for
> general relief, many millions of earmarked dollars could have been
> immediately available for something like Katrina.
>
> ARC fundraisers have a heck of a time trying to get the public to  
> understand
> these concepts.  Frankly, we seldom tried.  But this is a
> brighter-than-public sort of list.
>
> Easiest donation, if you want to give, is via the website:
> http://www.redcross.org/.
>
> Giving directly on the ARC site keeps fundraising costs to minimum.
> Indirect donations often have hidden costs - sometimes necessary and
> ethical, sometimes not so much.
>
> The 'Diaster Relief Fund' is the general emergency fund.
>
> PS
> Charlie mentioned generators - if you're anywhere nearby, that's one  
> thing
> that might be an efficient donation - you could 'lend' a generator, but I
> wouldn't count on getting it back in this chaos.  Farther away, contact  
> your
> ARC chapter and ask.  Money will still get generators in place, though.   
> The
> huge problem is still transportation.  We've been wondering what took so
> long to get the amphibious vehicles moving into town.  There was only one
> day warning that the hurricane would hit where it did - I hope it was  
> just a
> case of not enough time to deploy.  You know there are going to be
> investigations later.  Now it's just a joy to see them finally moving in.
>
>
> Stephen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Charles Paradise
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:14 AM
> To: North American Fruit Explorers
> Subject: [NAFEX] Do-It-0urselves Katrina Relief
>
> Not a wild idea Tom has at all.  Here in Massachusetts, individuals are
> trying to help.  One working at a health food store is sending protein
> powder directly.  I had thoughts about this I wrote yesterday I quote  
> myself
> as follows:
>
> Brett Favre, quarterback of Green Bay Packers football team, native of  
> the
> storm area, spoke yesterday saying even more urgent than food was need  
> for
> generators to produce AC electricity.  110 degrees at night is too much  
> to
> ask weak children sick or elderly to take.
>
> If it were me trying to help directly, I'd call a clinic in the greater
> storm area, ask what delivery method is most likely to come through for
> them, ask who their medical supply company is, and pay directly for a big
> box of I.V. fluid.   As a second choice, join with others to pay for a
> generator and have it delivered to an aging association in the storm area
> least likely to get power back online soon.  I'd be willing to kick in a  
> few
> bucks if someone wanted to get the ball rolling on this.  I do know  
> people
> escaped from the storm to Houston who could advise about clinics,
> associations, etc.
>
> If anyone would like me to call refugees from New Orleans now in Houston  
> to
> inquire where something could be sent [like an elderly affairs  
> organization]
> I will make the call, if asked.
>
> Charlie Paradise, Massachusetts
>
>
>
>
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