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["Brungardt, Sam" <Sam.Brungardt@state.mn.us>]

There is a very dark red, almost black-appearing carnation or pink
(Dianthus), and perhaps Black Gilliflower apple was named because the
colors of the flower and apple were similar. -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul,
Minn.

-----Original Message-----
From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Biz Storms
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:58 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Sheepsnose, Gilliflower, Apple Scents


We made a country apple pie with some Braeburns, a Black Gilliflower and
a 
Redflesh Crab ( leftover from a taste test ). The redflesh gave it a 
wonderful appearance and turned the juices a light pink. The Braeburns
and 
B. Gilliflower held their shape, while the Redflesh really softened. The

best part was that the three distinct tastes made each bite a little 
different. Although I wouldn't want an entire pie made from the
Sheepnose, 
as it would be too intense, it really contrasted with the sweeter
Redflesh. 
The taste of the Gilliflower also melded well with the cinnamon, since
it 
has a somewhat lingering, rich taste. Even though it is a fairly dry
apple, 
the Braeburns and the Redflesh compensated.

On a slightly different angle, Gilliflower, comes from the French word 
girofle, which means "a clove" - as the Cornish Gilliflower supposedly 
smells like cloves when it's cut open. I haven't had the chance to find
out, 
since the deer swiped all my first crop of fruit off the tree before it 
could mature. ( This was before I discovered Plantskydd. ) Beyond that,
I'm 
not sure how the Gilliflower part of the name was transfered to the
Black 
Gilliflower, since I haven't smelled anything clove-like when cutting
into a 
Black Gilliflower. Same as for the Winter Banana.

Do these scents attributed to certain apples become stronger, or even 
evident, when grown in different conditions. Does anyone know about
this?

Cheers, Bizmark
Creemore,  Zone 5



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Hansen" <brucedhansen@sbcglobal.net>
To: <breen@fedcoseeds.com>; "North American Fruit Explorers" 
<nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: [NAFEX] Red Delicious/sheepnose/shape on end


> Heron:
>
> I have a Black Giliflower and agree with your assessment. I also find 
> the apple to have a unique flavor and wonder if you know any folk who 
> have tried mixing it in culinary uses like apple sauce or as a 
> blending apple in cyder.
>
> Bruce

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