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["del stubbs" <pinewoodel@hotmail.com>]

Yes, and we are nearly the same latitude! This year was a cool spring, so 
bloom is late by up to a couple of weeks.
I hope to post a full accouting of this years suprising winter survival etc. 
but here are some of this years prunus bloom dates. No apricot blooms this 
year.
5/29 first blossoms - p. americana, pipestone, pembina / full bloom - 
nanking
6/3 peak bloom on alderman, prairie egg, evans, pipestone, compass, green 
gage
6/15 p. maritima
Frost chance tonight, Del

Del Stubbs  http://www.pinewoodforge.com  ag zone2/3


>From: "Mark Lee" <markl@nytec.com>
>Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" 
<nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Subject: RE: [NAFEX] Alternate Pear rootstocks / others
>Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:25:05 -0700
>
>Del,
>You mention Prunus maritima (beach plum) grafted onto local
>chokecherries and the timing of the bloom in partial shade.  Is this
>later or earlier than you expect? Also when do other Prunus species
>(plums and cheeries) normally bloom for you?  Mine start in late January
>and end in March.  The reason I ask is I am interested in finding
>scionwood/rootstock combinations that delay blooming.
>-Mark Lee, Seattle
>
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>[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of del stubbs
>Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:25 AM
>To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
>Subject: RE: [NAFEX] Alternate Pear rootstocks / others
>
>Last year I root grafted a couple varieties of pear on the Smokey
>variety of
>amelanchier, was delighted and surprised with the growth.
>I do not know how to determine what is the variety of craetagus we have
>locally, but so far my grafts of apple and pear have failed.
>3 years ago I grafed several local chokecherries with p. maritima -
>beach
>plum. Even in the partial shade it has just this week flowered
>profusely,
>and is quite healthier than the mother plant - which is in full sun on
>heavy
>soil. So the buds of p.maritima have gone through minus 40F and come out
>
>happy - I didn't think it would be that hardy.
>Glad to hear of your pear rootstock breeding Dean.
>Del
>
>>From: "Dean Kreutzer" 
<deankreutzer@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers
><nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>>To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
>>Subject: [NAFEX] Alternate Pear rootstocks
>>Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:07:04 -0600
>>
>>Hi Mark,
>>
>>I and others have been experimenting with Amelanchier for pear
>>rootstock.  It is very dwarfing and quite precoscious.  It isn't
>>perfect however as another grower has found that you should 
leave a
>>shoot of amelanchier to grow as well as the pear scion as the
>>rootstock just isn't that happy to have a pear on it.  My own 
grafts
>>just sat there for two years before finally showing some vigor 
this
>>year.
>>
>>I believe it has been used by Dr. Olmo in the Pacific NW as 
well,
>>with good results however, although I am not sure if the 
amelanchier
>>was a local species or not.
>>
>>I am doing breeding between my local amelanchier and pyrus
>>ussuriensis to hopefully come up with a rootstock that is more
>>accepting of the pear scion, and still dwarfing.  One thing is
>>certain, the rootstock is rock solid hardy.
>>
>>Take care,
>>
>>Dean Kreutzer
>>Regina, Saskatchewan Canada
>>USDA zone 3
>>
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