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[road's end farm <organic101@linkny.com>]

Sorry to be so late forwarding this that everybody on this list has 
probably forgotten this discussion; I asked Brian's permission to 
forward first and by the time it came through I was caught up with 
something else. I hope you can follow this; there are several layers of 
quotation involved.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Brian Caldwell <education@nofany.org>
> Date: Wed May 12, 2004  09:08:25 AM US/Eastern
> To: "road's end farm" <organic101@linkny.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] GMO apples
>
> Hi Rivka,
>
> I think that general consumer rejection due to continued discussion 
> about
> GMOs can stop the release of these, as it apparently has GMO wheat.  I
> don't know where the anti-fungal genes they have used in apples came 
> from;
> probably not from apples.  Anti-fungal genes inserted into chestnut 
> trees
> came from poison frogs.
>
> I'm sure that stooling a GMO plant would be considered an infrigement of
> patent rights.  As for who owns the progeny of GMOs, ask Monsanto....  I
> think the apporach of not allowing patents on life forms is a good one.
>
> See you,
> Brian
>
>
>
> At 11:02 AM 5/8/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 8, 2004, at 10:18 AM, Brian Caldwell wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Rivka,
> > >
> > > I hadn't seen this, but I knew they were doing this work.  [ , , , ] 
> > > The particularly bad part of this is that these genes will flow out 
> > > into
> > > the pool of wild trees, and irrevocably contaminate that gene pool.
> > >
> > > I hope they are not released!
> > > Brian
> > Any ideas as to how to stop the release?
> >
> > One of the other people on the NAFEX list also raised the patents issue
> > in response, as well as asking a question that I don't know if you have
> > the answer to:
> >
> > > 1) Where is this gene which "encodes for lytic proteins" in malus,
> > > coming from?  Is it an isolated malus gene or
> > > one from another plant/animal family?
> > >
> > > 2) If I stool the rootsock of a GM malus, is that breaking the patent
> > > law?  If the GM tree cross pollinates with
> > > another tree that is not GM who owns patent on the seeds?  What about
> > > "sport" patent rights on a GM tree?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 09:21 PM 5/7/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > Hi Brian -- I got this on the NAFEX list and thought you'd be
> > > > interested; don't know if you've already seen this.
> > > >
> > > > Begin forwarded message:
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Fri May 07, 2004  10:12:38 AM US/Eastern
> > > > > To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> > > > > Subject: [NAFEX] GMO apples
> > > > > Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > > >
> > > > > a few years ago Cornell figured out how to gentically engineer known
> > > > > apple cultivars [ . . . ]
> Brian Caldwell                          
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> Northeast Organic Farming Association of New York
>
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