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[rob hamilton <lostman_amiga@yahoo.com>]

I thought I would throw this website in the
discussion. Apparently there are some Europeans that
are saving/evaluating some varieties of Sorbus.

http://www.unifi.it/project/ueresgen29/netdbase/dbs.htm

Robert

--- Mark Lee <markl@nytec.com> wrote:
> Re: [NAFEX] mountain ash utilityLon,
> Do you have any experience growing the non-bitter
> eastern European varieties
> from seed?  I am wondering if Sorbus are like citrus
> in that most come true
> from seed, or like apples in that most do not come
> true from seed.  I am
> thinking mainly of the bitter/non-bitter
> characterisitc.  Each year I have
> many Sorbus seedlings come up around my yard, but
> none so far is worth
> keeping even to nibble.
> -Mark Lee, Seattle
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of
> Lon J. Rombough
>   Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:31 AM
>   To: North American Fruit Explorers
>   Subject: Re: [NAFEX] mountain ash utility
> 
> 
>   One would expect the seeds to be much like those
> in Amelanchier, in which
> you can eat the fresh berries if you don't chew the
> seeds, or else cook the
> fruit to break down the cyanide.
>      There are actually quite a few species of Mt.
> Ash (Sorbus) with edible
> fruit.  The English have been using many for years.
>      I have some of the "lookalike" types from
> easten Europe that lack the
> bitterness of the common ornamental types, and some
> of the S. domestica
> types that have to be "bletted" to be eaten.  The
> latter has some serious
> quirks, though.  One is that they can't be grafted
> by ordinary means.  The
> other is that  the wood is incredibly hard.  There
> may be a connection
> there.
>      The NCGR at Corvallis, OR has a collection of
> Sorbus, most of which
> have fruit that is edible (though maybe not always
> palatible).  Most of the
> edible ones are mainly mildly sweet, somewhat mealy
> fruit types.  Not great,
> but interesting as an edible ornamental.
>   -Lon Rombough
> 
> 
>     This question is from a string (WI, Madison
> area) discussing native vs
>     european mountain ash, and uses for them.  Any
> replies from nafexers ?
> 
>     tc
> 
> 
> 
>     I didn't even know there's a non-native mountain
> ash until I read this.
>     Glad to find out that it's the ugly one (you
> know, in my opinion).  I
> prefer
>     the smaller red fruits to the big orange ones,
> which seem a little gaudy
> to
>     me.  (Of course, some who know my taste in
> flower colors and
> combinations
>     will wonder how I can judge anything to be
> gaudy...)
> 
>     Anyone have more info on distinguishing the two?
>  Anyone know about the
>     safety of drinking tisane from the leaves/bark
> (i.e., are there any
> problems
>     with cyanide, as there are in cherry bark and
> apple seeds)?
> 
>     Kathryn
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