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[Claude Jolicoeur <cjoli@gmc.ulaval.ca>]

Hello Gord,
In Quebec, zone 4, I am very pleased with Harrow Delight pear. Luscious and
Summercrisp appear hardy here but haven't started production yet - I can't
comment on their quality. Flemish Beauty is also highly recommended,
however it is not resistant to fire blight - at my orchard, my Flemish B.
tree is doing very well, but I have never had any occurence of blight here.
More details in the note I wrote in Pomona - I think it was in the summer
2002 issue.
As of apricots, I tried Morden 604 and Brookcot - both died quickly.
Dormancy problem it seems...

Claude Jolicoeur

A 18:00 03.03.27 -0500, vous avez écrit :
>We'll probably spend more time debating the appropriateness of this e-mail
>than actually discussing the subject matter.  I agree with Lon, but suggest
>we ignore it and focus on fruit related discussions.  Which brings me to a
>question about Pears and Apricots.  Looking for northern hardy pear and
>apricot varieties that can survive zone 5 (-30 C winter temps), that are
>fire blight resistant (doesn't have to be immune) and have good to great
>flavour.  How bout Luscious and Summercrisp?
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>Regards,
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>Gord Hawkes
>Log Cabin Orchard
>www.logcabinorchard.com
>Osgoode, ON
>Canada, Eh?
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I don't know about chicken wire stopping the bucks cleaning the velvet off 
their antlers.  It may only make the bucks like the protective device more 
than the unprotected tree.  When a buck is determined to cleaning his 
antlers, my experience (in Kansas) is that little will deter him.



>From: "del stubbs" <pinewoodel@hotmail.com>
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>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Grow fruit higher than deer can reach?
>Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:55:57 +0000
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>My origional idea 5 years ago was to grow a one acre orchard that the deer 
>pruned. However, I could see no way to grow the trees above deer's reach 
>without fencing them first, so I did this last fall. The trees were in 
>chicken wire cages till then, they are about 6' tall.
>Then I thought about being 70 years old and climbing up a 16' 3-legged 
>ladder on a steep hillside.........and decided to prune 'em closer to the 
>ground!
>I still have plenty of flat land suitable to tall apples so am interested 
>in the tall tree tubes, didn't know there were 6' ones. My thoughts about 
>'skinny tree weakness' (caused by a tree not waving in the wind) would be 
>to double stake it once it is 8', and slowly let out the binder that wraps 
>the tree between the stakes. No?
>I think chicken wire would stop any velvet rubbing / trunk chewing deer.
>Wouldn't a wash in a weak clorox type solution rid any dropps from e.coli?
>One post commnented that cattle are good for an apple tree, isn't their 
>soil compaction a real problem?
>A useful thread, Del
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>Del Stubbs  www.pinewoodforge.com  ag zone2/3
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>>From: Rick Valley <bamboogrove@cmug.com>
>>Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>>To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Grow fruit higher than deer can reach?
>>Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:18:47 -0700
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>> > So, what's your opinion?    Possible?   Practical or impractical?
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>>If you can create a mini-bramble thicket around the young trees, they will
>>grow with a better form and less deer damage on the way to being savannah
>>climax trees- this is essentially what you can see happening in untended
>>fencerows.
>>And the final result will be what you see in many pastures; cows are
>>actually quite good at increasing fertility in the shade of a (HUGE) apple
>>tree.
>>And tagging back to fruit trees for timber- you'll get a 6-8ft saw log in
>>the end.
>>It'll work quite well until we successfully reintroduce elephants to N.
>>America.
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>>-Rick
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