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[Claude Jolicoeur <cjoli@gmc.ulaval.ca>]

Dylan,
I actually made 2 of those last year, with the objective of keeping bears away, not deers.
Instead of radio, I had a burgler siren in one case, and a door bell buzzer in the other.
One is stand-alone, with a 12V battery designed for alarm systems, the other is on 120 VAC.
I had difficulty to ajust the sensitivity - when the siren started, people around didn't enjoy very much... And, as I only go to the orchard on week-ends, I had hesitation to leave the thing on. Sensitivity is different daytime and nighttime, and the thing has a tendency to start every time there is a blow of wind or a falling leaf.
Finally, I didn't need them last year as the bears never came. On some years they come, on others they don't.
I also found this winter at Gempler's (http://www.gemplers.com) a device they call "Electronic pest repeller" which is about the same thing, except it is packed in a neat plastic enclosure, uses 4 batteries, and the alarm is ajustable into ultrasound - which makes it inaudible to humains. Also, it is not more expensive (70 US$) than the money I spent on all the gimmick I used to make my other systems...
I will try it next fall if the bears come.
Claude

A 20:25 03.03.27 -0500, vous avez écrit : 
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> In reference to using a timer to turn the radio on and off at staggered intervals during the night to startle the deer... I had an idea a while back that I've never had the opportunity to try. They sell screw-in plug outlets that can be put in a standard lightbulb socket. I wondered if you couldn't buy one of the less expensive motion-detector light units that people put outside their houses, screw the plug outlet into the socket and plug the radio into that. Then, I surmised, when the deer came a-munching, their motion would turn the radio on for the minutes you set the timer for, and only when the deer was on-site. On paper it looks like it would work.       dylan 
 >From drfruit@juno.com  Thu Mar 27 22:36:52 2003 Return-Path: <drfruit@juno.com> Delivered-To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org Received: from m12.nyc.untd.com (m12.nyc.untd.com [64.136.22.75]) by happyhouse.metalab.unc.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id B266720064 for <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"w7cfrunj897/t7lykldd5xog7v7j7ms8pnq5xoduci9taw5m947i0g==">; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:36:38 EST Received: (from drfruit@juno.com)  by m12.nyc.untd.com (jqueuemail) id HUBZ8XRQ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:36:38 EST To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:34:23 -0800 Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Grow fruit higher than deer can reach? Message-ID: <20030327.193426.-495413.0.drfruit@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,8-9,15-19,21-22,24,26,28-35,37-66 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Bruce D Kelley <drfruit@juno.com> X-BeenThere: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> List-Id: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex.lists.ibiblio.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex>, <mailto:nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/nafex> List-Post: <mailto:nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> List-Help: <mailto:sympa@lists.ibiblio.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex>, <mailto:nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 03:36:52 -0000
Charlie-
Regarding asian pear rootstocks- some research done by WSU in central Washington (zone 6) in the 1980s found that P.calleryana was better than P. betulaefolia in terms in yield efficiency, and had slightly larger fruit size as well.  Other rootstocks (Bartlett, OHxF 51, OHxF 217, Quince) had smaller fruit size & worse efficiency than the top two above. P. calleryana rootstocks produced trees that were just slightly larger than Bartlett (not dwarfing).
My own orchard has about 100 ap trees (sixty varieties) but I wanted them SMALL to fit inside my 8-foot tall deer fence (whoops, wrong thread :-) ).  They are growing on EMLA Quince C rootstocks, with an P communis interstem... this gives me trees that (for the most part) are just the same size as my apples on EMLA 9.  The fruit sizes ARE smaller than most asian pears, though.
Bruce
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:38:24 -0500 charles paradise <machelp@attglobal.net> writes: > I am planning in the future to grow a limited number of Asian Pears. > What rootstock should I plan to use? > My plan is to go for a standard size Asian Pear tree, no dwarfing  > plan at this time. >  >  > Would Pyrus Betulifolia  (Betulifolia Pear) seedlings be an  > appropriate choice? >  > Would Pyrus Ussuriensis  (Harbin Or Sand Pear) seedlings be as good? >  > Charlie Paradise > zone 5 / Massachusetts >  > _______________________________________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex@lists.ibiblio.org > Most questions can be answered here: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > File attachments are accepted by this list; please do not send  > binary files, plain text ONLY! > Message archives are here: > https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/nafex > To view your user options go to:  > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/nafex/XXXX@XXXX (where  > XXXX@XXXX is  > YOUR email address) > NAFEX web site:   http://www.nafex.org/ > 

________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com >From tanistanis@hotmail.com  Thu Mar 27 23:30:03 2003 Return-Path: <tanistanis@hotmail.com> Delivered-To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org Received: from hotmail.com (f92.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.92]) by happyhouse.metalab.unc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C26B2002C for <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:30:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 20:30:01 -0800 Received: from 67.233.55.249 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 04:30:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [67.233.55.249] X-Originating-Email: [tanistanis@hotmail.com] From: "tanis cuff" <tanistanis@hotmail.com> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 04:30:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <f92nllw94lj7tuuqdjw0000d0d7@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2003 04:30:01.0620 (UTC) FILETIME=[B29CC540:01C2F4E2] Subject: [NAFEX] hardy pear X-BeenThere: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> List-Id: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex.lists.ibiblio.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex>, <mailto:nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/nafex> List-Post: <mailto:nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> List-Help: <mailto:sympa@lists.ibiblio.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex>, <mailto:nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 04:30:04 -0000
Gord Hawkes,
Some months ago Claude J of Canada posted description & photos of a pear  growing near, was it, St Sophia ?  He didn't know its cv name, but it seems  very much like a pear tree I've been trying to ID for a while.  Mine has  gotten thru some tough winters, seems to be both FB-resistant &  self-fruitful, and produces pretty darn good fruit.  Grafts take on  'Bartlet' but reject sooner or later on usseriensis [spelling?] and the  OHxF's.
If you want to try propagating this, contact me off-list ?  I think dormancy  is broken for this spring.
Tanis Cuff, approx. z4 where the soil turns poor a ways north of Madison WI




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