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  • From: Ginda Fisher <ginda@concentric.net>
  • To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] honey
  • Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:57:52 -0400

You could try to make mead.

Ginda

On Thursday, October 3, 2002, at 04:50 PM, Raby, Brian {D204~Indianapolis} wrote:

I guess my question is... can I do anything with some slightly fermented honey.  I have a couple of 5 gallon containers in the basement that had their seals popped by the fermenting honey.  Honey was all over the phone, a bit of a mess to clean up.  When I opened the containers up, only about an inch of two of the honey was liquid.  The rest had granulated.  Can it still be used besides overcoming the off-taste?

Brian
Sheridan, IN


-----Original Message-----
From: paul simon [mailto:paul.simon@tcs.wap.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 3:43 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] grape jam success/creamed honey



>Charlie, the whipped/creamed honey is crystalized first but inexpensive
>uncooked honey will turn to a consistency similar to rock candy in a
>short while. I'm sure whipping it would speed up the crystalization and
>may be done in a commercial production. We just waited a while and
>rushed it by storing it in the refrigerator when we got impatient.
>It, like peanut butter will stay on your bread and you don't have to
>tear the bread when you spread it. Creamed honey isn't  popular in this
>part of the world but I have seen it in Canada. With our soft mushy
>white bread it would be a boon to spreadability. It won't run down your
>arm and require licking it off like liquid honey.  Our kids always had
>clean arms after eating honey "samiches".
>Doc Lisenby
>Zone 6/7
>
Creamed honey is the result of the granulation of dextrose sugars
into many few molecule units under controled conditions. In the
joining of the dextrose crystals, a water molecule is released,
increasing the water content. Fermentation of honey is the result of
sugar tolerant yeasts upon levulose and dextrose producing alcohol
and carbon dioxide. The alcohol is broken down into acetic acid  and
water by bacteria. (Roy Grout - The Hive and the Honey
Bee,  1960)


This is what I could find out quickly from my sparse library.
Probably updated data can be found on the web honey sites.


The ratio of dextrose to levulose is what causes some kinds of honey
to granulate readily ond others to never granulate. Clover honeys
usually stay liquid, while lima bean, rape and cabbabe family honeys
will granulate overnite. Heating 'raw' honey will inactivate the
veasts and bacteria present, and I think they have flash heating
which momentarily raise the honey temperature and cool it.


I just checked come dextrose crystals (3 x 3x .25 inches) sitting in
a ziploc bag on a shelf for a year which I pulled fron the top of a 5
gallon bucket ten years old. Its still good and the honey is also.


paul S. twix Balto an D.C. zone 6
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