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  • From: "Bill Russell" <shaman@pennswoods.net>
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  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Quantum physics, grapes, and wasps, oh my!
  • Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:19:10 -0400

The integrated circuit chips in modern computers are a product of quantum
physics.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: <Mauch1@aol.com>
To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:00 PM
Subject: [NAFEX] Quantum physics, grapes, and wasps, oh my!


> >In the early years of the 20th century, physicists discovered properties
of
> >matter at the sub-atomic level that are still considered incomprehensible
> >and downright absurd. Nevertheless, this was the beginning of quantum
> >physics, which
> >made possible the computers at which we are sitting.
>
> First, I am not an expert at quantum physics, or electronics but I believe
> The following to be true:
> Common computers do not use quantum physics as part of their operation.
> In fact, quantum physics starts causing problems as circuit size gets
smaller
> And smaller (at smaller sizes, quantum properties start affecting the
operation
> Of circuits.)
>
> Now I have read that in labs, scientists have developed “Quantum circuits”
, but
> I do not know if these will ever get out of the lab or be applied to other
than
> Very special case mathematical problems.
>
>
> >I wait until the grape bunch stem breaks off the vine easily.
>
> >Bill
>
> Depending on your cultivar of grape, this may not work. Not all grapes
bunch stems break off
> Even at full ripeness. Some get “woody”, and others remain highly
flexible, so are nearly
> Impossible to break off.
>
> > In the past you have said that the best way to check ripeness in grapes
is
> taste. But do all
> > grapes in a cluster reach the same taste/ripeness, at the same time?
> >
> > Being a grape novice, I see a lot of color variation between grapes in a
> bunch. Also, how
> > "ripe" are your grapes in your zone (generaly speaking_? My Eona's are
> like green peas, while
>
> In some grapes, the bunches never get completely the same color, or if
they
> Do they are past full ripeness (Once Canadice is fully red, the grapes
fall
> Off the bunches at a touch). For eating, I would taste both the
fully-colored
> And the greenish grapes. If both taste reasonable good, pick.
> When I had grapes they would ripen (depending on variety) from late August
> to early October. I had one variety that was perfectly hardy, but it
> wouldn't ripen properly in SE PA.
>
> If using for winemaking, you might want to be more exacting
> for your grape testing.
>
> >Hi, I am brand new to this group. How can one be rid of wasps which
> >ruin half of the blackberries in my acreage ?
> >They are nice to have around for pollination but now they are costing
> >me. Grape growers must have the same problem.
> >Thank you
> >Bruce Muirhead
> >Nova Scotia
>
> I've long held an opinion about wasps (particularly of the
> yellow jacket variety). I believe that wasps get blamed for
> a lot of fruit damage that is initially caused by birds.
>
> I think some birds come along and peck at a fruit, and
> once the damage has occurred, the wasps come along to feed
> in the open wound. I have seen what appears to be very minor
> damage on a grape, that was definitley done by a wasp, but
> I don't think it's the majority. I would bet if you controlled
> the birds or netted your berries, you would see very little wasp
> damage. You could even do this as a test (i.e. net some and not
> others and see which become wasp damaged. If both, then it's not
> birds.
>
> Chris Mauchline
> SE PA, zone 6
>
>
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