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  • From: Thomas Olenio <>
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  • Subject: RE: [nafex] Grinder Details
  • Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:23:50 -0400 (EDT)


I bet it looks like this:

At least mine looks something like this.


Thomas Olenio
Ontario, Hardiness Zone 6a

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Raby, Brian {20-4~Indianapolis} wrote:

> Don,
> My question is; it seems you "manufactured" your own apple grinder, but you
> didn't mention what you use to press the slurry into juice/cider.
> Brian Raby
> Sheridan, IN
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Yellman []
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 1:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [nafex] Grinder Details
> 1. Since Doc and Claude seem interested, here are a few more details on
> the garbage disposal apple grinder.
> 2. The table I built measures 20X24" across the top, and is 36" tall.
> Top is a piece of kitchen countertop. Those dimensions are not rigid.
> I discharge into 5-gallon buckets lined with nylon pressing bags, but if
> you want to discharge into a 40-gallon garbage can, build a bigger
> table. Don't know how you would move around 40 gallons of slurry
> though. The legs have to be braced so the unit is stable. You could
> also use an old sink, although I see no advantage to that.
> 3. Wiring is pretty simple. Use 16/3 cord, and a switchbox with an
> ordinary light switch. Carry the ground all the way through, since you
> will be working in a damp environment while standing on the earth. Only
> the hot wire needs to be switched.
> 4. Garbage disposals come with a 90 degree black plastic fitting for
> the discharge outlet. That's all you need. It will cleanly fire the
> slurry into your bucket.
> 5. This system works only with nylon pressing bags, the strongest you
> can find. Coarser mesh is usually heavier and for that reason better.
> You can blow out a weak bag with a screw type press. I did that last
> fall and put some apple slurry up on the garage roof. Nylon bags are
> available at beer/winemaking shops.
> 6. Once the bucket is 2/3 full, twist and lift the bag out to the
> press. You can put two bags of slurry into your pressing basket; I do
> not recommend three or more, since you start to lose some efficiency.
> Even so, you will have at least 6-7 gallons of slurry. There will
> already be a gallon of juice in the bucket when you lift out the bag.
> 7. The difference between a garbage disposal and any type of toothed
> grinder is that the disposal produces slurry, with the juice cells
> already broken up, while a toothed grinder produces chunks. Even a
> well-engineered toothed grinder like Claude's will turn out chunks,
> although they might be smaller chunks. A garbage disposal is
> essentially a miniature hammermill. Slurry will always give you a
> higher juice yield.
> 8. Victoria's idea of using a trash compacter as a press is intriguing,
> but I think the problem would be --- how do you strain out the juice? I
> have thought about drilling hundreds of little holes in a stainless
> stock pot, eliminating the pressing basket and bags completely. But I
> have not found a sturdy stockpot with the 13" diameter of my pressing
> plate, and anyway, I wonder if it would not quickly clog up and reduce
> my juice yield. With the nylon pressing bags, you just dump out the dry
> cake, call the horses over for a little treat, rinse the bag and resume
> pressing.
> 9. If you can sell this idea in N.H. Victoria, it might mean an
> expanded market for garbage disposals.
> Rgds, Don Yellman, Great Falls, VA
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