Mounted search and rescue

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do you take new members?...

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From: David leadbetter

To: Mounted search and rescue

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:50 PM

Subject: Re: [MSAR] board members

Here in Western Australia emergency services are covered by legislation whereby the individual cannot be 'sued'.We are members of the State Emergency Service which is part of FESA [Fire and emergency services authority]  which is I believe the same as your FEMA.

 

CHEERS

 

Linda

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From: E.S.

To: Mounted search and rescue

Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:28 AM

Subject: Re: [MSAR] board members

an excellent answer,

 

the training we get it's from members that made themselves "field experts" base on the numbers of years that they are doing the search and rescue part, they don't have a certificate of any kind expect of the CPR, First Aid , and out doors training that we all have, my concern is that some young lawyer will said that the training the have is not a valid training, to cover myself I had a training by an outside source who had publish books and running  s&r programs nation wide, I think it's better to have that kind of  training, in addition I have a military combated background , so I think I'm covered from both sides, however the other members and board members can have a problem , that why I'm working to have other sources of training to our group, but the old timers giving me hard time doing it...

 

Thanks again.

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From: Irvin Lichtenstein

To: 'Mounted search and rescue'

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:12 PM

Subject: Re: [MSAR] board members

This may not be very complete as I have been down with the flu.

There are several types of errors a board member can commit.  For the most part board members are responsible for oversight of organizational matters, not operational matters.  Thus a board member can authorize use of assets illegally or not allow the organization to function properly.  They may be considered responsible for what employees do under their direction.  These errors are generally covered under directors’ insurance and many state have a model indemnification clause to protect volunteer directors by having the organization assume the liability.

 

Filed activities, and resultant errors, would be considered malpractice.  Malpractice can be committed by anyone at any time.  An error in judgment, a mistake in navigation, the wrong first aid technique.  In many jurisdictions emergency responders are held in a contradictory position.  Thus you are expected to behave perfectly, in accordance with training and policy all the time, despite having no time to make a decision.  It is rare to sue a response organization that made its best effort when a rescue fails.  There have been cases where the government was sued for not having the proper training and equipment. 

 

Coverage for both types of incident are available but check with your agency’s solicitor how it should be worded. 

 

Irv Lichtenstein  

 

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From: msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of pennbo@verizon.net
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 9:30 PM
To: msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [MSAR] board members

 

Ultimately your Sheriff's coordinator or representative would be the best person to answer this question. In our case we train- and we DOCUMENT that training. In today's sue happy world training documentation is your lifeline and your security. If you can prove that you- and your mount- are qualified for the job you are doing you are much better covered. I don't know how the good Samaritan act works in your state, or if it does, but it would also cover you to some extent. Our county is very adamant about training, for both us and our equines, and about documentation of that training so that they can better protect us in the case of a tragedy.

Talk to your Sheriff's liaison.
Chris


Jan 17, 2010 08:15:41 PM, msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org wrote:



Hi,

 

I'm with the sheriff's posse mounted search and rescue in pima county AZ . if we go on a rescue mission and the object die or injured from the horse, or was any kind of negligent from us, are we expose to a law suite on a personal level; even if we covered by the sheriff's insurance?

 

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