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- From: "Hill, Victoria L." <Victoria.L.Hill@saint-gobain.com>
- To: "Mounted search and rescue" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [MSAR] Socks
- Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:49:11 -0500
If I may....if the hypothermic subject
is still A&Ox3 then you can begin the warming process by removing them from
the cold environment, taking their wet clothes off and covering them with a
blanket/s, providing those hand warmer packets to them to be placed in the
axilla (armpits), groin area, and the back of the neck. DO NOT re-warm the
limbs first as this will cause vasodilation and cause the body to go into a
fatal form of shock. You can also give them WARM liquids or broth.
Do NOT rub the affected areas, and if shivering is absent transport in an
ambulance. Do not allow the pt. to walk around, do not re-warm too quickly
or jostle them around as this will cause arrhythmias. We don't require
hypothermic pts to be placed on a heart monitor as none of us can carry them in
our backpacks or saddlebags without a whole lot of red tape and a medical
license at about the Paramedic level. This is pretty basic first aid
stuff for our state and of course as you advance up the EMS ladder you learn all
kinds of things to deal with and treat hypothermia but we don't even mess with
the monitors. If the hospital wants to put them on then that's what they
do....us out in the field do what we are trained to do to save the
patient. All protocols are different for each state but federal standards
are what I stated above.
Just wanted to throw my 2 cents
in. I wish all of you a very Merry Christmas and a safe and wondrous
New Year.
Respectfully,
Victoria L. Hill
Clay Co. Sheriff's Posse
Clay Co. Search
& Rescue
AHA CPR
Instructor
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cowardice. ~Confucius From: msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 3:15 PM To: 'Mounted search and rescue' Subject: Re: [MSAR] Socks I usually buy through
REI as there is a store nearby (Conshohocken). Most of the hiking socks
are available in synthetic only. Polyproplene is a wicking material and
the fabrics made from it are good for the innermost layer. Gore product
Gore-Tex is a membrane used as a vapor barrier in various products. If it
says You can become
hypothermic at +60F if there is a wind (like riding at 7 MPH) or rain (even a
mist) if you get wet and then cool by evaporation. The biggest argument
for spending the bucks for Clarification: My
Dehners have ribbed soles, not slicks. I ride with wide, leather covered,
stirrups and a padded seat roping saddle. I usually wear full suede
schooling chaps over jeans. I carry a rain hoodie, CAUTION: When
encountering a hypothermic subject current protocols are not to warm them up
until a heart monitor is available and they will be warm from then
on. There is a danger of
arrhythmia during the warming process and there is no sense warming someone and
then getting them cold again. What you want to do is stop any further
cooling by removing wet clothes, wrapping loosely in a blanket, or
similar. Consult with your medical director for a proper protocol consist
with BLS or ALS in your jurisdiction. Irv Lichtenstein
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[mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lila Corey |
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Re: [MSAR] People Boots,
Kate Beardsley, 12/18/2009
-
Re: [MSAR] Socks,
Laurie Hanahan, 12/18/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Socks,
Thor Burfine, 12/18/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Socks,
John-Faye Neff, 12/18/2009
- Re: [MSAR] Socks, Una Smith, 12/18/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Socks,
John-Faye Neff, 12/18/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Socks,
Lila Corey, 12/18/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Socks,
IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN, 12/18/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Socks,
Hill, Victoria L., 12/18/2009
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Re: [MSAR] treatment protocols,
IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN, 12/18/2009
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Re: [MSAR] treatment protocols,
Hill, Victoria L., 12/18/2009
- Re: [MSAR] treatment protocols, Una Smith, 12/18/2009
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Re: [MSAR] treatment protocols,
Hill, Victoria L., 12/18/2009
- [MSAR] Hypothermia, Una Smith, 12/18/2009
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Re: [MSAR] treatment protocols,
IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN, 12/18/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Socks,
Hill, Victoria L., 12/18/2009
- Re: [MSAR] Socks, emboote, 12/18/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Socks,
IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN, 12/18/2009
- Re: [MSAR] Socks, Jorene Downs, 12/18/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Socks,
Thor Burfine, 12/18/2009
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Re: [MSAR] Socks,
Laurie Hanahan, 12/18/2009
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