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  • From: "Lila Corey" <Caballera@embarqmail.com>
  • To: "Mounted search and rescue" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [MSAR] Overview of the MSAR training course in Cook CountyheldonOct.18, 2008
  • Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:14:25 -0400

Thanks for your input. I did put a call through to the Brunswick MSAR today. Maybe that will help. My horse has ALWAYS from the day I got him let me know if he smelled a human - at first I thought it was weird. However, he has always been consistent with it and it has served me well on trails- especially when I have been riding by myself and he has allerted me to a human nearby- he omits a low grunt- and stops and looks in that direction. Once I walked up on a man in the woods relieving himself - after 3 warnings by my horse. I have always rewarded that behavior in him. Folks have thought it weird that he does that when we are on trail rides- so hopefully he will be a big help. Dead animals scents don't seem to affect his behavior, will need to find some way to figure out how a human one would cause him to respond.

Lila
----- Original Message ----- From: "Una Smith" <una.smith@att.net>
To: "Mounted search and rescue" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MSAR] Overview of the MSAR training course in Cook CountyheldonOct.18, 2008


Lila Corey wrote:
I emailed the Brunswick SAR and got no response from them.

Try the telephone?

NC SAR Advisory Council had a March 2008 training on its calendar
that sounds great. And I think the SAR community in NC is pretty
well developed. Look out for another training (mock search) next
year; watch http://www.ncsar.com/.

Many of these searches in our area are becoming homicides, so
crime preservation is a must.

Yes, crime scene preservation is a must, but it is also pretty
simple for a SAR field team: the primary job is simply to
withdraw. Also, there is no particular MSAR angle, except that
you may want to know how each horse responds to cadaver scent.

Do you anticipate doing body recoveries? Would slinging a body
over a horse be acceptable in NC? It is acceptable in NM, for
some families (eg ranching families, elk hunters), but for urban
families it can be beyond the pale.

Have you considered air scenting training for your horses? To
begin, your human team members would need to be scent aware.

Does your team require its own SAR management? In some areas
SAR management is provided by the AHJ (sheriff's office, state
SAR system, state wilderness management agency), so volunteer
SAR teams only need to train their own field team members and
field team leaders.

Una Smith
New Mexico
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