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  • From: BRENDADURHAM5@aol.com
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  • Subject: [MSAR] Reference Junior Members
  • Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:28:12 EDT

We allow Junior Members Aged 16 through 18 with parental signatures, (we have never had anyone apply, except children of team members).  Our junior members can only help at the Command Post or Ground Support.  They can train with us, but not participate in the "searching".
Brenda Durham, Coordinator
East Fork State Park
Volunteer Mounted Search & Rescue
Southwest Ohio
 
In a message dated 4/11/2008 1:22:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, msar-riders-request@lists.ibiblio.org writes:
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Today's Topics:

   1. Junior members (Janice Hatch)
   2. Re: Junior members (Una Smith)
   3. Re: Junior members (IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN)
   4. Re: Junior members (Natalie Perry)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:44:49 -0400
From: "Janice Hatch" <muckalot@gmail.com>
Subject: [MSAR] Junior members
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Our unit was founded in 2000, and at that time we did not accept junior
members age 16-18. Would those teams that have junior members, please email
me the by-laws governing junior members and pros/cons of having junior
members. Thanks. Janice Hatch/ Mid-Maine Mounted S&R.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:13:14 -0600
From: Una Smith <una.smith@att.net>
Subject: Re: [MSAR] Junior members
To: Mounted search and rescue <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
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The question of junior MSAR responders has come up several times here
on MSAR-Riders;  see our archives, which can be browsed and searched
via http://www.ibiblio.org/msar/msar-riders.html

In particular, see the long thread on "Minors as members" in 2006 Q3:
https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/msar-riders/2006q3/thread.html

That said, the question has not come up recently so perhaps it is time
for us to discuss it again, for the benefit of all who are interested.

    Una Smith
    New Mexico


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:17:08 -0500
From: "IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN" <ilichten1@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [MSAR] Junior members
To: "'Mounted search and rescue'" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
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The primary problem with under 18 year olds is that they cannot be used in
any situation that would violate the child labor or welfare rules of your
home state.

Besides controlling what they can do (in Pennsylvania a minor cannot
dispense fuel or use power cutting tools for instance), it often controls
when they can do it or for how long.  No school nights, no response after 11
PM, no driving over 9000 pound GVW vehicles after dark, etc.  Additionally,
in Pennsylvania, a minor can revoke any agreement, including a release,
signed by them or their guardian on their behalf, when they turn 18. 



We will permit minors to train with us but they can't respond in the field,
so we have had no applications but we have had ride-a-longs who were
children of members or in fundraising events (shows) with parents present.
Our insurance policy covers all members, regardless of age.



Irv Lichtenstein

Chief of Operations

SE PA SAR



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[mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Janice Hatch
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:45 PM
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Subject: [MSAR] Junior members



Our unit was founded in 2000, and at that time we did not accept junior
members age 16-18. Would those teams that have junior members, please email
me the by-laws governing junior members and pros/cons of having junior
members. Thanks. Janice Hatch/ Mid-Maine Mounted S&R.

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:50:33 -0500
From: "Natalie Perry" <shakana@kpcomputers.net>
Subject: Re: [MSAR] Junior members
To: "Mounted search and rescue" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
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please remove my name from mailing list.
thank you
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From: "Una Smith" <una.smith@att.net>
To: "Mounted search and rescue" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MSAR] Junior members


> The question of junior MSAR responders has come up several times here
> on MSAR-Riders;  see our archives, which can be browsed and searched
> via http://www.ibiblio.org/msar/msar-riders.html
>
> In particular, see the long thread on "Minors as members" in 2006 Q3:
> https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/msar-riders/2006q3/thread.html
>
> That said, the question has not come up recently so perhaps it is time
> for us to discuss it again, for the benefit of all who are interested.
>
> Una Smith
> New Mexico
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