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  • From: LMabry-zianet <lmabry@zianet.com>
  • To: 'Mounted search and rescue' <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: RE: [MSAR] neutering and spaying/stallions
  • Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:29:59 -0700

thanks for the info Diane - we are new to dog training so just learning.....
Lydia


On Wednesday, March 17, 2004 5:50 PM, BC911 [SMTP:usark9@warpdriveonline.com]
wrote:
> Lydia
>
> A dog either has the proper drives or he/she doesn't. It has absolutely
> nothing to do weather a dog is in tact or not. Having been an instructor for
> many years, I can tell you that it is the men that have the problem with
> castration when it comes to their dogs. For some reason it doesn't seem to
> bother them with their horses, but they like their dogs to be in tact and
> the drive is the best they can do for a reason. ~ ~ ~ ~??
> Now women on the other hand, are quick to spay their bitches. Not too
> difficult to understand that.
>
> Seriously, I have worked both sexes in tact and fixed and it has absolutely
> NO effect on their search drives. After my bitch was FEMA certified and had
> one litter of pups, I had her fixed. Good thing too because if I had not,
> she would have been due to come back into heat when we were under attack on
> 9/11. She would have not been able to respond to her call to the Pentagon.
> After her deployment to the Pentagon, I certified her to the advanced level
> of FEMA Type I. Proof of no loss of drives there!
> I have a dog, Rip, that has reached seven years old and he has sired two
> litters. I am now thinking about neutering him for health reasons. We have
> enough prodigy on the ground to keep the lines going so why not. I might
> even consider keeping some frozen from him just in case. The point is, I
> know that he will not be any less of a SAR dog if I neuter him. There is
> absolutely no question in my mind that he will continue to work with or
> without his testicles.
> No matter what you have been told, they are really not attached to his nose
> in any way whatsoever anymore than Sage's ovaries were attached to her nose
> or her work drives!
> I choose these dogs for their breeding lines from working stock and imported
> them from England. Still, I am not a breeder and have only bred them to
> bring better BC's to the states. Out of their litter of seven, one is a
> service dog for a paraplegic, one is a competition agility and obedience
> dog, one is in a pet/ranch home, and three are SAR dogs. One dog and two of
> the bitches are still in tact. as a matter of fact, I am waiting for a
> litter to be born right now! The mother is one of the bitches from my Rip/
> Sage breeding. She was bred to a dog living in Utah. He too is a british
> import. He is a breed Ch, Obedience trial Ch, master agility and herding
> titles. Am I excited about this breeding?? You bet ya!!!!! I have great
> expectations for this litter. Even though I don't own it, they are still my
> breeding and Im sure you know how that is.
>
> If you see any differences in your dogs it is because they are individuals
> with different drives and different personalities. Not because they are
> fixed or not. The only thing that neuitering does is make a dog less
> agressive to other dogs if neuitered early enough. I promise you it won't
> effect his work ethic.
>
> Do the right thing and spay and neuter all dogs unless you have exceptional
> lines and you have done your health screening. Hips and elbows OFA, and eye
> cerfs.
>
> BTW, Sage is a very good rider and Woody doesn't mind packing her when she
> gets too hot or tired.
>
>
> B. Diane Whetsel EMT I
> Search Dogs Southwest
> FEMA/ DHS Canine Readiness Type II Evaluator
> NMTF I, FEMA/DHS, Canine Search Specialist
> 911BC, Search and Recovery
>
> K-9's Rip and Sage
> Horses, Woody (gelding) and Sun Dance (Mini stallion)
>
> If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they
> went.
> ~~Will Rogers
>
> usark9@warpdriveonline.com
>
>
> > there are mixed feelings about that - some feel it destroys their drive -
> > others 'fix' males only - we have one 'intact' male, two fixed females and
> > one fixed male - it will be interesting to see if it makes any difference.
> > (all bloodhounds, btw)
> > lydia
> > Las Cruces, NM
> >
>
>
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