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  • From: "sue roseman" <swissy AT socket.net>
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  • Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Coolers
  • Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 21:17:14 -0500

Cool-Bot is the only way to go. It is an amazing product. Keeps my cooler that is not even insultated very well at 42 in the 90 degree weather. It will go much lower if you have good insulation and for a very inexpensive price. We love ours!
Sue zone 5
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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Buzz kill! Is this 'bee Armageddon'?----serious problem
for all. (Mike Rock)
2. Coolers - Walk In Style (Dalew Farms)
3. Re: Coolers - Walk In Style (John and Katy Ehrlich)
4. Re: Coolers - Walk In Style (cjmaness AT juno.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:46:34 -0500
From: Mike Rock <mikerock AT mhtc.net>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Buzz kill! Is this 'bee
Armageddon'?----serious problem for all.
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Carla,
We normally overwinter and loose about 2 or three. Just make increase
in the spring and refill them. I have a VERY sheltered spot, no wind
from NW and direct sun all day, so have had normally low losses. In
1991 we had 25 and had several go over three hundred pounds. Oh for the
good days again. My wife was an old country Norwegian and all the
queens had Viking names!

Mike



carla safran wrote:
Hello,

I have a several hives here in Missouri, and have lost in the past to winter weather. This last year when temperatures were reported to be 20 below zero I figured I had to do something to protect my bees. They can usually stand temps in the teens and occasional single digit for short duration. I bought insulation from the hardware store, wrapped it in plastic tarp (to keep it dry and stay enclosed,) covered my hives with the tarp, secured them with bales of straw on either side and hoped for the best. A fellow beekeeper friend of mine told me that the insulation would keep the hive too warm and the bees would go through their stores too fast. So I fed them when temperatures were less freezing. I took off the insulation when temps stayed in the forties. They seemed to do just fine, plenty of bees this Spring, have had to put up suppers to give them more room. Granted luck fell on my humble amount of hives but I'll do the same next winter if need be.



From: rstewart AT zoomtown.com
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 03:58:11 -0400
To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Buzz kill! Is this 'bee Armageddon'?----serious problem for all.

Mike


How many did you loose and why?


I lost nearly 1/3 of my 30 colonies. One as a direct result of my own actions and all the rest to winter freezing...a natural event that happens to "wild" colonies and kept, still with a good 30 to 50 pounds of honey in stores. Sometimes it simply gets too cold for some colonies to make it. We had a bad winter. Normal losses are always between 10 and 20% and have been since modern beekeeping allowed humans to keep bees alive to harvest the product of the hive.














Richard Stewart
Carriage House Farm
North Bend, Ohio

An Ohio Century Farm Est. 1855

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:47:20 -0400
From: "Dalew Farms" <dalew AT phonenet.ca>
Subject: [Market-farming] Coolers - Walk In Style
To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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We are adding another walk in cooler to our farm this year. (Our other one is in the basement of the house, and we're getting tired of carrying everything down the stairs and then back up again on CSA and market days.)

I've been looking at used insulated truck boxes with reefers. The problem I'm usually running into is that most of them either don't have an electrical backup to the main diesel unit, or the electrical backup is 3 phase, and we don't have access to 3 phase hydro here. (We could purchase a phase converter, but the quote I received was about $2500)

At this point, it looks like we might buy one with a diesel unit and simply add an electricity powered compressor unit separately, so that way we've got our main power as electric, but we can use the diesel unit if the electricity goes out.

Just wondering if anyone else has any thoughts or experiences in adding walk in coolers to their operation without spending a fortune, either with used truck boxes or other methods!

Thanks

Dave

PS - This is my first post. I tried to look through the last 6 months' archives but didn't see any subject titles that looked like they covered this subject. Thanks for letting me know about this list Rob, looks like lots of good info allready!



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:09:07 -0700
From: John and Katy Ehrlich <johnkaty AT shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Coolers - Walk In Style
To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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go with the Coolbot or Koolbot and an AC. Use rocksol or rigid foam
and no vapor barrier.


On 27-Apr-10, at 5:47 AM, Dalew Farms wrote:

We are adding another walk in cooler to our farm this year. (Our
other one is in the basement of the house, and we're getting tired
of carrying everything down the stairs and then back up again on CSA
and market days.)

I've been looking at used insulated truck boxes with reefers. The
problem I'm usually running into is that most of them either don't
have an electrical backup to the main diesel unit, or the electrical
backup is 3 phase, and we don't have access to 3 phase hydro here.
(We could purchase a phase converter, but the quote I received was
about $2500)

At this point, it looks like we might buy one with a diesel unit and
simply add an electricity powered compressor unit separately, so
that way we've got our main power as electric, but we can use the
diesel unit if the electricity goes out.

Just wondering if anyone else has any thoughts or experiences in
adding walk in coolers to their operation without spending a
fortune, either with used truck boxes or other methods!

Thanks

Dave

PS - This is my first post. I tried to look through the last 6
months' archives but didn't see any subject titles that looked like
they covered this subject. Thanks for letting me know about this
list Rob, looks like lots of good info allready!




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:16:06 GMT
From: "cjmaness AT juno.com" <cjmaness AT juno.com>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Coolers - Walk In Style
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Steve Upson with the Noble Foundation wrote an article about our walk in cooler using a Cool-Bot. I can't find the link right now, but you can Google Noble Foundation and find it.
Carla
Perkins, OK

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