Market Farming

["Jill Bussiere" <jdt AT itol.com>]

I don't want to have the last word...I just want to add that soybeans do
need to be cooked - they do have stuff in them that make them not good to
eat if not cooked/baked/treated with heat in some fashion - both human and
non-human animals (How's that for scientific information:^).  Our goats
sometimes eat feed with soybeans, but they are heated, extruded....And, we
cook our soybeans before we eat them.

                                        Jill Bussiere, Wisconsin



-----Original Message-----
From: market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Pat
Meadows
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:43 AM
To: Market Farming
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] edamame


On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:06:23 -0400, you wrote:

>Gosh, folks, isn't a phytate a phyto-toxin?
>
>Help me here, Pat: Do asians really have a history of drinking soy milk?

Yes.  It's served from street carts (street vendors) in both
China and Japan.  Tofu shops in Japan also sell soymilk.
(Source for statement:  The Book of Tofu, Shurtleff and
Aoyagi).  But more of their soybean consumption was/is in
the form of tofu.


>
>Here's a little bit from the Sally Fallon folks, enough to prove that
>your person history is simply A MIRACLE!
>
>>  The Chinese did not eat unfermented soybeans as they did other
>>legumes such as lentils because the soybean contains large
>>quantities of natural toxins or "antinutrients". First among them
>>are potent enzyme inhibitors that block the action of trypsin and
>>other enzymes needed for protein digestion.

I'm sorry, but this is erroneous.  Tofu is NOT a fermented
product.  I know, I make it at home.  There is no
fermentation involved.

Tofu is made, basically, as cottage cheese is made:  no
fermentation.  (I've made cottage cheese at home too.)

I'm sorry again, but I do not consider the Weston A. Price
Foundation (of which Fallon is President/Treasurer) to be a
reputable or unbiased source.  Indeed, IMHO they are very
biased and have a definite agenda.  They're not a new
outfit, they've been around quite a while and I've been
familiar with them quite a while -  proclaiming the virtues
of (specifically) *raw* milk used to be their chief claim to
fame.

Ms. Fallon's academic qualifications are: "a Bachelor's
Degree in English with honors from Stanford University, and
Master's Degree in English with high honors from UCLA."
(This is not to say that people without degrees in the field
of nutrition cannot have expert knowledge about it, of
course.)

If you go to their home page, you will read:

"Dr. Price's research demonstrated that humans achieve
perfect physical form and perfect health generation after
generation only when they consume nutrient-dense whole foods
and the vital fat-soluble activators found exclusively in
animal fats."

Huh?  Show me the humans with perfect physical form and
perfect health generation after generation.  This is
nonsense.  Pseudo-science.  Fake science.

Another quote:
"The Foundation seeks to establish a laboratory to test
nutrient content of foods, particularly butter produced
under various conditions; to conduct research into the "X"
Factor, discovered by Dr. Price; "

Oh?  The "X" factor discovered by Dr. Price?  Hmmm... why
has no one else discovered the "X" factor and done tests on
it and told the information about it to the USDA, the FDA
and other interested parties, and published articles in
peer-reviewed journals?

I dislike mis/dis-information and that's what this outfit
shovels out, IMHO.  Relying on the Weston A. Price
Foundation for truthful information about soyfoods is like
relying on the American Hog Raisers Association (or whatever
their name may be) for truthful information about factory
farming.

Now, I've no more time for this and I never should have
answered in the first place, just because I don't have time
for it.  Anyone who wishes to, can have the last word.

Pat
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