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["Jon Hill" <jhill AT johnnyseeds.com>]

 Hi Ernie,

The SeedStick Planter can punch a hole in plastic mulch but at this time
the hole is too small to guarantee that the seedling will find the
opening. We are working on an option that would open a larger hole.

The Jab Planter creates a bigger hole in mulch and works well for this
application. It does not have a hopper. Typically a nail apron is worn
that contains the seeds and while one hand holds and moves the seeder,
the other drops the desired number of seeds into its barrel. This is
relatively easy with seeds the size of beans.

I hope this helps.

Jon 
Accessory Product Manager
Johnny's Selected Seeds

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Nitrogen Sources, pigs and chickens (Paul Range)
   2. Re: Application Rates for Poor Soil (Paul Range)
   3. Re: Nitrogen Sources, pigs and chickens (JOHN A HENDRICKSON)
   4. RE: Nitrogen Sources, pigs and chickens (mtlivestock)
   5. Re: Nitrogen Sources, pigs and chickens (Paul Range)
   6. Seed stick planter (Judy & Ernie Duckworth)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 03:27:04 -0600
From: "Paul Range" <paul AT hanszen.com>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Nitrogen Sources, pigs and chickens
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John,
    My farm is organic so I am very careful about where I get my horse 
manure due to people using fly sprays and other chemicals on both the
horses 
and stalls.
    I run my pigs/chickens year round moving the pen forward 5ft. per
day. 
Then sow witner rye grass behind the pen as it moves forward in the
winter, 
turnip greens or whatever is cheap in the summer..  After 10 years of
doing 
this have had no more than normal pathogens in either.  Also have not
plowed 
or rototilled in the same time period.  Paul Range 




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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 03:49:02 -0600
From: "Paul Range" <paul AT hanszen.com>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Application Rates for Poor Soil
To: <cheselka AT theriver.com>,    "Market Farming"
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Matt,
    I guess it is possible to add too much compost to a given area but 
really don't see how except for time constraint.  My only complaint
about 
building up my soil over these past 10 years is waiting untill the next
day 
to go out in the field so won't go up to my knees.  Paul Range 




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 04:15:58 -0600
From: JOHN A HENDRICKSON <jhendric AT wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Nitrogen Sources, pigs and chickens
To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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Paul,

Sounds like you're in a warm climate where you can sow year-round.  Let
me make sure I understand your system.  You follow the animal pens with
either rye or turnip greens depending on the season as cover crops and
then follow that with a market crop?  Is that the gist of it?  Since you
do not plow or rototill, do you hand-dig to prepare the soil for the
following market crop?  What scale is your farm?  Are animal products
marketed as well or do you just have them around for the fertility/weed
control?  Sorry if this is being too nosy.  Like I said, I'm just
curious about farms that are diversified into both vegetables and
animals and how folks make the enterprises mesh together into a complete
system (both biologically and economically).  Thanks.  -John

>    I run my pigs/chickens year round moving the pen forward 5ft. 
> per day. 
> Then sow witner rye grass behind the pen as it moves forward in the 
> winter, 
> turnip greens or whatever is cheap in the summer..  After 10 years 
> of doing 
> this have had no more than normal pathogens in either.  Also have 
> not plowed 
> or rototilled in the same time period.  Paul Range 



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 05:26:18 -0700
From: "mtlivestock" <crublee AT libby.org>
Subject: [Market-farming] RE: Nitrogen Sources, pigs and chickens
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Margaret,
What type of cover did you have on your stock panel hoophouses?  Did you
have condensation problems?  Curious to know the particulars of keeping
stock in these without having illness due to excess moisture building up
on
the cover.

Christina




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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 08:20:21 -0600
From: "Paul Range" <paul AT hanszen.com>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Nitrogen Sources, pigs and chickens
To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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John,
    No problem,  I farm the two acres on 5 foot centers running the pigs
and 
chickens down the middle leaving a foot on either side.  Have not turned
the 
soil on the growbeds for 10 years.  The pigs and chickens rototill the 
ground mixing in the horse manure, leaves and whatever else i can find.
I 
rarely top dress the growing rows but plant them as thick as possible.
The 
occasional weed (mostly Johnsongrass) that pops through gets thrown in
the 
the nearest pig pen since the consume it all.
    The pens have a 5gal bucket with a dog waterer attached for both pig
and 
chicken pens, 6in wheel (recycled from old lawnmowers) and tin on top
for 
shade.  Have to make them pig proof on sides so welded 4in cattlepanels
then 
covered by chicken wire on chicken pens only.  Coons will kill the
chickens 
and the cattlepanels, covered by chicken wire is the only thing that
will 
stop them.
    Pigs have to be moved each day to keep them from digging out.
Chickens 
can go a couple of days but any longer and the coons will dig in.
    Don't market the livestock or eggs.  We eat the pigs, since they are

small and easy to butcher but only eat the eggs with the chickens
because I 
don't like them smell of slaughtering them.
    Raise turnip and mustard greens for the winter, tomatoes, cucs,
squash 
and canalope in the summer.  Most of the vegs go to the two resturants
in 
town or to farmers market on Sat. morning., over ripe stuff goes to
local 
Catholic church which seems to be the distrubition point for the town.
We 
live in central Texas.
    Send me your e-mail and I will send a couple of pics.  Paul Range 
paul AT hanszen.com 




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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:36:38 -0600
From: "Judy & Ernie Duckworth" <jeduck AT midwest.net>
Subject: [Market-farming] Seed stick planter
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List,

    Some time ago there was a discussion about the seed stick planter.
We planted some green bean on plastic last year by hand and they did
very good and want to do it again this year. We used a knife to cut hole
and dropped the seed by hand. Very time consuming...
    Will the seed stick plant through plastic or must we get the
easy-plant jab-type planter. Dose this type of planter have a hopper to
hold seeds or is each seed dropped individually by hand?

Thank you
Ernie
JEDs  Southern IL.
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