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  • From: "Shepherd Ogden" <shepogden AT yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: [Market-farming] Organic Seed List
  • Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:39:58 -0500

As to the list of organic seeds requested, I doubt you will find them all as
you have a number of European heirlooms on there for which I don't know any
US source, organic or not. A bunch of them are on the Cooks Garden list of
last year, but I don't know about 2004 as I am no longer working with the
company (as of 6/03). You will find some of them at Territorial Seeds
(www.territorialseed.com), and a bunch at Seed Savers (www.seedsavers.org),
which is doing large amounts of organic production these days.

Good Luck!

Shepherd Ogden

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Certified organic list of seeds I am looking for
(Windsoap AT aol.com)
2. Re: Certified organic list of seeds I am looking for (Andrea)
3. laying hens - HELP (Windsoap AT aol.com)
4. Re: laying hens - HELP (Madeline Card)
5. Retreated seed (KTCopsey AT aol.com)
6. Re: laying hens - HELP (Robin Follette)
7. Re: Certified organic list of seeds I am looking for
(Elizabeth Knutson)
8. Re: laying hens - HELP (Elizabeth Knutson)
9. Re: Retreated seed (Allan Balliett)
10. Re: laying hens - HELP (Jill Taylor Bussiere)
11. Re: laying hens - HELP (robert schuler)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:22:44 EST
From: Windsoap AT aol.com
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Certified organic list of seeds I am
looking for
To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
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In a message dated 12/5/03 5:11:05 PM Pacific Standard Time,
elsaella AT yahoo.com writes:


> I am looking for these vegetable seed varieties.

TRY THIS: www.heirloomtomatoes.com AND THEN SHEP OGDEN AT COOK'S GARDEN
www.cooksgarden.com. ALSO, johnnyseeds.com. YOU'LL FIND SOME OF THEM. I
WOULD
LOVE TO KNOW WHY YOU CHOSE THOSE VARIETIES.

query to all: how important is it that the seeds be grown organically; what

portion of our organic practice is the actual seed? I certainly do not want

treated bright pink corn seeds that can kill my chickens if they eat a
couple,
but for the rest? How much bad stuff is in the seed of, say, a melon that
was
sprayed? we're not "certified", but we adhere to organic practice.
Wendy Akin
Akin Farm
Terrell, TX
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:31:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Andrea <elsaella AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Certified organic list of seeds I am
looking for
To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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Hello Wendy,

Thanks for the links.I have tried a couple of them.But for he whole not much
result.Can I mail you privatly?I will tell you why.
Regards Andrea

Windsoap AT aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 12/5/03 5:11:05 PM Pacific Standard Time,
elsaella AT yahoo.com writes:


I am looking for these vegetable seed varieties.

TRY THIS: www.heirloomtomatoes.com AND THEN SHEP OGDEN AT COOK'S GARDEN
www.cooksgarden.com. ALSO, johnnyseeds.com. YOU'LL FIND SOME OF THEM. I
WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHY YOU CHOSE THOSE VARIETIES.

query to all: how important is it that the seeds be grown organically; what
portion of our organic practice is the actual seed? I certainly do not want
treated bright pink corn seeds that can kill my chickens if they eat a
couple, but for the rest? How much bad stuff is in the seed of, say, a
melon that was sprayed? we're not "certified", but we adhere to organic
practice.
Wendy Akin
Akin Farm
Terrell, TX _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:33:30 EST
From: Windsoap AT aol.com
Subject: [Market-farming] laying hens - HELP
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Help! We have a few hens for a small egg production for our vegetable
customers. This fall, the 12 araucana hens were just not keeping up with
the
demand, so we bought 20 "gold star" or red sex link hens, young, but
starting to
lay. We expected to now have about 20 eggs per day, but production dropped
to 4
- 7 eggs per day! All the eggs are from the gold stars. We have not seen a

green araucana egg since the gold star hens arrived. These hens are all
free
range, spoiled pets. There are two roosters. Does anybody have any
thoughts
or advice? We are stymied. We have talked, we have threatened, our
customers have cajoled. We have given extra treats of cracked pecans, we
have
withheld treats and scratch. We are considering a chicken pot-pie machine.
Help.
Wendy Akin
Akin Farm
Terrell, TX
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:53:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Madeline Card <maddiecard AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] laying hens - HELP
To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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You might want to try buying a good quality all grain
laying feed. Hens just don't lay very well on "treats
and scratch feed".

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:57:05 EST
From: KTCopsey AT aol.com
Subject: [Market-farming] Retreated seed
To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
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In a message dated 12/5/03 6:23:26 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Windsoap AT aol.com
writes:
how important is it that the seeds be grown organically; what portion of our

organic practice is the actual seed?
For my certification purposes all seed should be certified if possible. For

practicality it may not matter. If course we could also become neurotic
about
whether composting a geneticaly modified potato skin transfers that
modification into the compost. So I keep my domestic compost separate from
the stuff
I use on the certified beds - I sometimes wonder if I am becoming totally
schizo about this whole thing,
Katy
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:12:30 -0500
From: "Robin Follette" <csa AT thymeforewe.org>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] laying hens - HELP
To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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Do you have lights on in the hen house to make up for lack of sunlight
during these short days? If not, turning a light on to give them 14 hours
of light a day should get them going again.

We have americaunas. They've never done as well in the winter as our barred
rocks or red crosses.

It's possible the hens are laying outside since they're free range. Locking
them in for a week or two should get them back in the nest boxes.

Robin Follette
Thyme For Ewe Farm
Talmadge, Maine

----- Original Message -----


Help! We have a few hens for a small egg production for our vegetable
customers. This fall, the 12 araucana hens were just not keeping up with
the demand, so we bought 20 "gold star" or red sex link hens, young, but
starting to lay. We expected to now have about 20 eggs per day, but
production dropped to 4 - 7 eggs per day! All the eggs are from the gold
stars. We have not seen a green araucana egg since the gold star hens
arrived. These hens are all free range, spoiled pets. There are two
roosters. Does anybody have any thoughts or advice? We are stymied. We
have talked, we have threatened, our customers have cajoled. We have given
extra treats of cracked pecans, we have withheld treats and scratch. We are
considering a chicken pot-pie machine. Help.
Wendy Akin
Akin Farm
Terrell, TX


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:28:45 -0700
From: "Elizabeth Knutson" <eknutson AT clubdepot.com>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Certified organic list of seeds I am
looking for
To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <008a01c3bbb9$d44e21e0$e695ea43@homepc>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Check out http://www.mofga.org/oss_sources.html, or go to
http://www.greenpeople.org/index.htm click on "Organic Food" then non-gmo
seed; or try the OMRI site.

Betsy (eknutson AT clubdepot.com)
Southern Idaho, USDA Zone 5
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrea
To: onlyheirlooms AT yahoogroups.com ; organic_gardening AT yahoogroups.com ;
Market Farming
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 6:10 PM
Subject: [Market-farming] Certified organic list of seeds I am looking for


Hello there,

I am looking for these vegetable seed varieties.They have to be certified
organic.I will not buy any other kind of seeds.If you have to sell any of
those,please let me know,and we could take arrangements for an order.
If I place an order,I will have to get a letter with your company's name
on it and proof of organic certification for the varieties I asked for.
Here it goes:
Artichoke Gros vert de Laon
Asparagus Conover's Colossal
Bean Merveille de Marche
Bean Pink Tip Half Runner
Bean italian Horticultural
Bean Pole Blue Lake
Beet Cheltenham Green-top
Beet Chioggia
Beet Feuerkugel
Broccoli Romanesco
Broccoli De Cicco
Brussel Sprout Red Rubine
Brussel Sprout Paris Market
Cabbage Kissendrup
Cabbage Savoy Des Vertus
Cabbage Savoy d'Aubervilliers
Cabbage Savoy Chieftain
Cabbage Danish Ballhead
Cabbage Copenhagen Market
Carot White Belgian Green Top
Carot Obtuse de Doubs
Carot Juwarot
Carot Purple Dragon
Cauliflower Early Snowball
Cauliflower Snowball self-blanching
Corn Sweet Six Shooter
Corn Sweet Hawaian Supersweet # 9
Cucumber Parade
Cucumber True Lemon
Cucumber Longfellow
Eggplant Listada di Gandia
Eggplant Vittoria
Eggplant De Barbetane
Eggplant Blue Devil
Fennel Zefa Fino
Leek Prizetaker
Lek Giant Musselburgh
Lettuce Grosse Blonde Paresseuse
Lettuce Merlot/Galactic
Lettuce Tunska Edra
Lettuce australian Yellowleaf
Lettuce Reine des Glaces
Lettuce Slobolt
Lettuce Red Oakleaf
Melon Bidwell Casaba
Melon Cob
Melon Santa Claus
Musk Melon Banana
Musk Melon Noir des Carmes
Onion Bunching Deep Purple
Onion Southport Red Globe
Onion ailsa Craig
Orach Red
Orach Yellow
Parsley flat leaf italian Budapest Market
Parsley Green curled
Pea Dwarf Grey Sugar
Pea Green Arrow
Pepper sweet Antohi Romanian
Pepper sweet California Wonder
Pepper sweet Butter Bell
Pepper sweet Orang Bell
Pepper sweet Round of Hungary
Pepper Boldog Hungarian Spice
Pumpkin Zorba
Pumpkin Fairytale
Pumpkin Turk's Turban
Pumpkin Rouge Vif d'Etamples
Radish Sparkler
Rutabaga Macomber
Spinach Long Standing
Squash Acorn Tuffy
Squash Scallop Peter Pan
Squash Ronde de Nice
Squash Zephyr
Squash Tondo Chiaro
Squash Delicata
Squash Triamble
Squash Blue Kuri
Tomato Taxi
Tomato Cherokee Purple
Tomato Eva Purple Ball
Tomato Gold Nugget
Tomato Yellow Stuffer
Tomato Napoli
Tomato Siberia
Tomato Yellow Pear
Tomato Black Krim
Tomato Red Peach
Tomato Yellow Peach
Tomato Gardener's Delight

The list is huge,so I do appreciate your time very much.If you could send
this list back to me and indicate what varieties you have in certified
organic seeds,I would appreciate it immensely.
Regards Andrea Weber


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:32:20 -0700
From: "Elizabeth Knutson" <eknutson AT clubdepot.com>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] laying hens - HELP
To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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Patience, a hen's ability to produce eggs is affected by the length of the
day. It will pick up in the spring.

Betsy (eknutson AT clubdepot.com)
Southern Idaho, USDA Zone 5
----- Original Message -----
From: Windsoap AT aol.com
To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 7:33 PM
Subject: [Market-farming] laying hens - HELP


Help! We have a few hens for a small egg production for our vegetable
customers. This fall, the 12 araucana hens were just not keeping up with
the demand, so we bought 20 "gold star" or red sex link hens, young, but
starting to lay. We expected to now have about 20 eggs per day, but
production dropped to 4 - 7 eggs per day! All the eggs are from the gold
stars. We have not seen a green araucana egg since the gold star hens
arrived. These hens are all free range, spoiled pets. There are two
roosters. Does anybody have any thoughts or advice? We are stymied. We
have talked, we have threatened, our customers have cajoled. We have given
extra treats of cracked pecans, we have withheld treats and scratch. We are
considering a chicken pot-pie machine. Help.
Wendy Akin
Akin Farm
Terrell, TX


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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:22:27 -0500
From: Allan Balliett <igg AT igg.com>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Retreated seed
To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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>how important is it that the seeds be grown organically; what
>portion of our organic practice is the actual seed?

DR Jerzy Nowak of Virginia Tech spoke at the Mid-Atlantic Biodynamic
Food and Farming Conference in Leesburg, VA last month on the
bacterial activity in plant tissues. He said that a healthy seed
carries within its tissues the bacteria necessary for innoculating
the soil that it will germinate in. The research on this discovery is
just beginning. It just stands to reason that seeds that are grown in
sterilized ground are not going to carry as much beneficial bacteria
as seeds that are grown in living soil. This information made me
realize for the first time how very important for my productivity it
is that I start growing and saving my own seed. -Allan

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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:41:45 -0600
From: "Jill Taylor Bussiere" <jdt AT itol.com>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] laying hens - HELP
To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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I don't know how old your Araucana hens are, but after the first year, hens
will moult, usually with the shortening of the day. During this time, they
don't lay eggs. They will lose most of their feathers, and then they will
grow in again, all new, and look pretty spiffy. It is good for the chicken
to allow this to happen, and not to use lights during this period. Once
they are finished moulting, you can either wait for the light to increase on
its own in a few months, or you can turn the lights on a few extra hours
each day. You don't want to leave the lights on all the time, though - that
is too stressful. In fact, it can lead to the chickens pecking at each
other as they get stressed out.

Jill, WIsconsin
----- Original Message -----
From: Windsoap AT aol.com
To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:33 PM
Subject: [Market-farming] laying hens - HELP


Help! We have a few hens for a small egg production for our vegetable
customers. This fall, the 12 araucana hens were just not keeping up with
the demand, so we bought 20 "gold star" or red sex link hens, young, but
starting to lay. We expected to now have about 20 eggs per day, but
production dropped to 4 - 7 eggs per day! All the eggs are from the gold
stars. We have not seen a green araucana egg since the gold star hens
arrived. These hens are all free range, spoiled pets. There are two
roosters. Does anybody have any thoughts or advice? We are stymied. We
have talked, we have threatened, our customers have cajoled. We have given
extra treats of cracked pecans, we have withheld treats and scratch. We are
considering a chicken pot-pie machine. Help.
Wendy Akin
Akin Farm
Terrell, TX


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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:00:00 -0500
From: robert schuler <sunnfarm AT bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] laying hens - HELP
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Whenever you bring in new pullets they sort of go into a temporary shock
in their new surroundings, most likely they are starting to molt, if
thats the case then you will have to wait a couple months before the
birds start to produce again.
I always keep my birds housed 2 sq ft per bird on deep litter, birds
remain healty and lay eggs at 80%. One problem with range birds is
you will find eggs all over the place, you don't know how old they are,
many are bloodspot from the stress, they get dirty and need cleaning
which is bad for the egg...Bob.
Sunny Meadow Farm
Bridgeton, NJ.

Windsoap AT aol.com wrote:

> Help! We have a few hens for a small egg production for our vegetable
> customers. This fall, the 12 araucana hens were just not keeping up
> with the demand, so we bought 20 "gold star" or red sex link hens,
> young, but starting to lay. We expected to now have about 20 eggs per
> day, but production dropped to 4 - 7 eggs per day! All the eggs are
> from the gold stars. We have not seen a green araucana egg since the
> gold star hens arrived. These hens are all free range, spoiled pets.
> There are two roosters. Does anybody have any thoughts or advice?
> We are stymied. We have talked, we have threatened, our customers
> have cajoled. We have given extra treats of cracked pecans, we have
> withheld treats and scratch. We are considering a chicken pot-pie
> machine. Help.
> Wendy Akin
> Akin Farm
> Terrell, TX
>
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