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  • From: "jayne simmons" <runjaynerun AT hotmail.com>
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  • Subject: [Market-farming] Re: Market-farming Digest, Vol 9, Issue 1
  • Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 12:17:30 -0700

I usually don't coment, but felt I needed to in this case. The Costco/Sam's difference is in the pay- Sam's top paid people are getting 8$/ hr, Costco starts at $10 and goes to $17 or more for the long time employees, also we get bonus' - also, Sam's is owned by walmart. In California i believe most stores use union employees. As much as I too hate the whole "WTO superstore" idea, It has treated me well. So well that I can't afford to quit to farm for a living.....

Thanks,
Jayne
Sister Sage Herbs


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Today's Topics:

1. Carnival Squash (Marie Kamphefner)
2. RE: Tents...again (Marie Kamphefner)
3. Re: Carnival Squash (Bill Shoemaker)
4. DEER FENCING (Paul A. Bock)
5. Re: DEER FENCING (Leigh Hauter)
6. tents for a particular use? (a)
7. Organic sowing medium (a)
8. Re: tents for a particular use? (Steve Sando)
9. Re: tents for a particular use? (Willie McKemie)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:43:53 -0500
From: "Marie Kamphefner" <kampy AT grm.net>
Subject: [Market-farming] Carnival Squash
To: "'Market Farming'" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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Regards to the list:

Carnival squash has been plentiful here this year. It's the only one of
all the varieties of squash we planted that produced anything.
Everything else died.

One of our subscribers asked if the seeds of the carnival can be roasted
and eaten like pumpkin seeds. I didn't know. Does anyone know?

We've had two nights of frost this week.

Marie in Missouri
Smack in the middle of zone 5



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:48:18 -0500
From: "Marie Kamphefner" <kampy AT grm.net>
Subject: RE: [Market-farming] Tents...again
To: "'Steve Sando'" <steve AT mrlucky.com>, "'Market Farming'"
<market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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Hi Steve,

We got our EZUP at WalMart for $79. It is the green and white striped
topped one. In the summer, Sam's had the white pointy-topped ones for
about $180. Costco carries the Caravans I understand but I don't know
the price there. I've seen some on eBay, but didn't keep track of the
prices. We have taken a large patio umbrella and stuck the pole into
the stock rack hole of the pickup truck and that worked well.

Marie in Missouri




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 07:52:25 -0500
From: "Bill Shoemaker" <wshoemak AT inil.com>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Carnival Squash
To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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I would assume that they can be roasted and eaten, just like any other
squash or pumpkin. Whether they taste better or worse is another story, but
probably one worth pursuing for those who like roasted pumpkin seeds.

Bill Shoemaker
Sr Research Specialist, Food Crops
Univ of Illinois - St Charles Hort Research Center



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>Regards to the list:
>
>Carnival squash has been plentiful here this year. It's the only one of
>all the varieties of squash we planted that produced anything.
>Everything else died.
>
>One of our subscribers asked if the seeds of the carnival can be roasted
>and eaten like pumpkin seeds. I didn't know. Does anyone know?
>
>We've had two nights of frost this week.
>
>Marie in Missouri
>Smack in the middle of zone 5
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:20:21 -0400
From: "Paul A. Bock" <bockpa AT plesh.com>
Subject: [Market-farming] DEER FENCING
To: "'Market Farming'" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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>One of the nearby market farms relies on an 8' foot deer fence,
>and that is what I'm hoping to avoid.

Though I am not growing any crops right now, the deer come to within say 50
feet of barking dogs in an alfalfa field behind my house. Some night I
should let the collie go after them. He is one fast runner. I'll leave the
German shepherd mix stay tied up. He barks a lot but isn't as strong a
runner. When he has come up on deer in the woods he runs fast, but not
after the deer, fast as he can to hide behind momma and daddy. I know the
collie won't catch up to the deer, at worst maybe he will nip at their
heels. He likes to herd, especially groups of small children. Should scare
the daylights out of those deer though.

Anyway, talking about deer fence, I have heard that an alternative to a tall
fence, is a double fence. Something like 30-36" spacing between the two
fences. Makes them afraid of where they might land. I have also heard of a
double fence using only three wires. Something where on the outside row of
fence posts you hang a wire about a foot off the ground and another about
three or four feet up. Then on the inside row of fence posts you hang one
wire about half way up between the other two. Something about the spatial
positioning of the wires confuses them. However, we live close to grape
country and bucks with full racks can run faster across the rows faster than
you could run down the rows. A grape fence has two wires on about 2-3' off
the ground and another about 5-6' off the ground. A few nursery farms,
fallow deer farms, elk and bison farms around here use woven wire or welded
wire 8' tall. The height probably helps in the winter when the snow is deep.
I have heard about cattle walking right over fences in the winter.

Paul Bock

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:35:06 -0400
From: Leigh Hauter <lh AT pressroom.com>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] DEER FENCING
To: bockpa AT plesh.com, Market Farming
<market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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right now I'm using a triple electric fence. One of those moveable
goat fences in the middle with hot strands set off 3 feet on either
side at 4 feet height. all of this hooked up to the strongest
charger I can get.

Even this is not perfect, the deer occasionally will even go through
that and cause major damage. As fall approaches and the deer get
desperate I've also left one of our gp's inside each 2 acre field.
I've found that a gp is about the best dog for keeping deer away.

We are in an area with a very dense deer population.

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 04:44:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: a <elsaella AT yahoo.com>
Subject: [Market-farming] tents for a particular use?
To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <20031001114416.12894.qmail AT web11104.mail.yahoo.com>
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Hello everybody,

I have been following the questions about the tents.Could anyone tell me what their use is for?

Thank you
Andrea


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 04:47:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: a <elsaella AT yahoo.com>
Subject: [Market-farming] Organic sowing medium
To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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Hello,

I was wondering if anybody out there is certified organic.And if you are,what kind of growing medium do you use.Do you mix it up yourself ,and what proportions of all the different ingredients does it contain.
I would need the starter(seed)mix and also the growing medium for transplanting them into pots until I put them into the ground in the garden.
Thanks for all the help.
Regards Andrea


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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:00:21 -0700
From: "Steve Sando" <steve AT mrlucky.com>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] tents for a particular use?
To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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From: "a" <elsaella AT yahoo.com>
> I have been following the questions about the tents.Could anyone tell me
what their use is for?

For shade while selling at markets.

Marie mentioned the cheapie EZUP at Walmart with the green/white stripes.
This is what I was replacing. My frame is fine but the cover is falling
apart. The top layer of plastic is disinegrating and it looks as if it's
snowing everytime I set up or break down. I was very good about using the
protective cover bag, to no avail.

I ended up taking Willie's advice and getting the Sams Club unit for $179.
It really feels superior and more substantial. I do five markets a week in
summer and 2 all winter so I think it's worth the extra money. I'm hoping it
is, anyway.

I hate the whole warehouse store thing but see it as a neccasary evil for
small business but Sams Club seems vastly superior to Costco, at least here
in Northern Calif. Maybe it's because there aren't as many and they need to
be more competitive but the staff was as friendly as Nordstroms and the
selection, especially for business things, was superior. Plus it seemed like
a nicer space than the Costcos. Same price to join and instant credit! But
the big advantage is you can order online and go pick it up and avoid
shopping and being tempted by buffalo wings you don't need but buy anyway.

Steve


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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:04:50 -0500
From: Willie McKemie <mf AT austinfarm.org>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] tents for a particular use?
To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <20031001090450.W8781 AT mckemie.austinfarm.org>
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> Marie mentioned the cheapie EZUP at Walmart with the green/white stripes.
> This is what I was replacing. My frame is fine but the cover is falling
> apart. The top layer of plastic is disinegrating and it looks as if it's
> snowing everytime I set up or break down. I was very good about using the
> protective cover bag, to no avail.

With even the better quality EZUps, you can expect only about two years
service. I think our's gets about 100 erections a year. Is that a
pun? Anyway, no need for further comment.

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