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  • From: "Mike Bosko" <mjbosko AT jmtsystems.com>
  • To: <bockpa AT plesh.com>, "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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  • Subject: RE: [Market-farming] Weeds in my corn!
  • Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:25:10 -0700

This year, I am testing an area where I had rye/vetch grown through the
winter. Late this spring I brushhogged it all down and, using my cultivator
set to trench evenly spaced furrows, I planted 8 long rows of sweet corn. I
then interseeded some inoculated white clover.

I read that you need to wait until the rye goes to flower and the vetch was
mid-bloom to fully kill it. However, I was concerned that my rye was going
to go to seed before the vetch went to flower so I cut a little too early
for the vetch. The rye did die out, but the vetch is now growing within the
corn. I don't' think this is necessarily bad though, as its providing a
living mulch for the corn. Hopefully, not taking too much nutrients from
the corn. I understand that the vetch won't release its N to the soil until
its dead.

This test corn crop got a late start; seeded late May, but its about 4" tall
now. Supposedly, tests found that you can plant later when interseeding
into a killed cover crop. I'll try to keep you posted on this test, if
there is interest.

Oh, on weed issues... I have seen none come thru yet! And I'm surprised, as
this field has always been plagued by weeds due to its location. Its very
windy in our valley, and this plot is situated where the wind tops a hill
and allows all its airborn seeds to settle. But, hardly a weed in the area!
May be due to the weed suppression of the killed rye - will have to see once
the chaff has deteriorated and the weed suppression effects diminish.

-m

JMT SYSTEMS CONSULTING
http://www.jmtsystems.com
info AT jmtsystems.com / 509 968-9015

-----Original Message-----
From: market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Paul A. Bock
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 7:15 AM
To: sunnfarm AT bellatlantic.net; 'Market Farming'
Subject: RE: [Market-farming] Weeds in my corn!

I have never tried this, but has anyone ever grown a low cover crop, even
better a legume like clover or maybe a low one like yellow Dutch clover
throughout the corn patch? Or maybe no-till drill corn into a brush hogged
clover patch? I am just thinking of ideas to smother the weeds AND maybe
provide some nitrogen in the process. Then you already have a cover growing
when the corn is harvested and the ground is open.

Paul Bock


-----Original Message-----
From: market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of robert
schuler
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:56 AM
To: Market Farming
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Weeds in my corn!


Hello Michael, You can cultivate small corn anytime, many farmers rotary
hoe corn before it germinates, small corn is almost indestructable, its
when it gets over two feet tall that root pruning becomes a factor. I
use herbicides to control weeds and two cultivations. The first
cultivation when the corn is 4" tall I apply a sidedress of 14-7-14 at
the same time, a second cultivation at 15-20" tall along with a
sidedress of 34-0-0. and thats it. If I have a bad weed problem I can
cultivate aggressively at 6" tall, throwing soil into the row covering
weeds between the corn plants, I sometimes use disc hillers when the
corn is 12-20" tall to bury weeds between the corn.
I would not waste time getting the weeds out of your corn patch they
will quickly take hold and destroy your corn. Weedy corn produces small
unsaleable ears..Bob.
Sunny Meadow Farm
Bridgeton, NJ.

Michael Lorion wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am new to this list and new to farming in general.
> Up until this winter we had a small horse farm but
> decided it might be more profitable and fun to grow
> our own produce and sell at a modest farm stand on our
> property. I have about 2-3 acres in production and,
> overall, things have gone very well. I am growing
> pumpkins, zucchini, summer squash, cucumbers, corn and
> a variety of flowers for cutting. Despite the
> ridiculously wet conditions here in central
> Massachusetts this spring, most of my crops are doing
> fine. Planting was a bit late but I shouldn't't have
> any issues with fall frosts before harvest.
>
> My specific question relates to my sweet corn. I have
> about 1 and 1/2 acres planted. I bought a high
> quality treated seed from Johnny's. Given my
> equipment (30hp tractor w/ tiller attachment) I had a
> hard time with muddy conditions. As of today, my corn
> is about 3-9 inches tall but I have a lot of weeds. I
> have tried to cultivate between rows but I worry that
> the corn isn't stable/tall enough yet. I've heard
> corn has a shallow root system and to be careful
> cultivating. At this point, should I wait a little
> longer or start actively weeding? If I let it grow a
> little taller, should I be concerned about the weeds
> "taking hold"? Any help or suggestions would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Michael
>
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