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- From: dhondt <dhondt@eircom.net>
- To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Agroecological Food Systems
- Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:22:50 +0100
I think so.
J
On 19/06/16 18:40, herb farmer wrote:
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type="cite">
If we all did what you're doing maybe we could fulfill the
vision of tribal elders & progressives around the world. in
truth, it's the only way.
On 6/19/2016 11:20 AM, dhondt wrote:
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I agree that it is irrational to hope that things will change
for the better. Things will probably get a lot worse. To name
but one example, you have presidential elections soon and from
where I am standing it looks as if all the candidates that have
a chance are outdoing one another to show that they will start a
war with Russia and China as soon as they can. Clinton, the most
likely next president, is the worst in this respect. So chances
are we here in Europe will see our top soil turn into glass.
I can only do what I have always been doing, plant a few more
tree seedlings, make compost and build soil. It is what nature
itself does.
John
On 18/06/16 23:34, herb farmer
wrote:
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type="cite">
I have no hope it will change, except in isolated
communities on marginal land. certainly the survivalists'
bunkers will house skeletons only. some say the only thing
between us & extinction is 6 inches of topsoil.
On 6/18/2016 3:10 PM, dhondt
wrote:
5765B8A8.6030505@eircom.net" type="cite">
Tragically, no past civilization has ever been able to step
away from the path of destruction even if many must have
seen what was happening. And it seems that we will not be an
exception.
We are loosing 25 billion ton of top soil every year world
wide. In the Northern hemisphere we convert oil into food
extremely inefficiently. It often costing hundreds of times
the energy in oil to produce an energy unit of food. In the
Southern hemisphere agriculture uses mining of soil and
nutrients instead.
Imo one of the main dangers is globalization that makes that
it does not matter that locally destroying stupidity can
take place. Food can always be imported from somewhere else
(for now). If we all were more locally self sufficient the
ongoing destruction locally would sooner be noticed and
acted upon.
John
On 18/06/16 19:56, herb farmer
wrote:
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type="cite">
"The core of the challenge is not a lack of evidence,
as the report authors have again made clear; it is the
ideological support for an outmoded model of agriculture
that continues to generate huge profits for the few, at
the expense of long-term healthy agro-ecosystems and
secure livelihoods."
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/06/17/pathways-of-transition-to-agroecological-food-systems/
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