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[dhondt <dhondt@eircom.net>]

When you think of it  Frodo was in almost the exact situation we are now Paul. He did not have any hope that is mission would be successful and still he kept going and in the end against all odds brought everything to a good end.
Martin Luther who started the Protestant Reformation supposedly said in 1523 : " even if I knew the world would come to an end tomorrow I would still plant apple trees today."

Imo if you can only keep your head up hoping that evil will wait to descend until you are gone naturally, you weaken yourself. Too much hope that something will not happen weakens you for when it comes it will be a bad shock. If you have no hope at all you are better prepared for whatever is thrown at you and you will be better able to carry on. Think about it, it will be less easy to get hurt and you will also be much more dangerous for those that perpetrate that evil.
We live on a planet that mankind is trashing in every way. We now use the resources of almost 2 planets every year and rational thought should tell us that this is not sustainable for any length of time. It should have been stopped long ago.
 Enough people hoping that this will only result in catastrophe in one hundred years time gives the perpetrators a free card to keep on going for now and we can not afford to do that.

All we have to do is decide what to do with the time that is given us. Give up hope by all means but never allow yourself to be loaded on that cattle waggon to Auschwitz.

John

On 22/07/15 01:48, herb farmer wrote:

55AEE864.7080108@lobo.net" type="cite">
So what do we do? Give up? From Lord of The Rings, this always comes to me:

Frodo – “I wish the ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened."
Gandalf - "So do all who come to see such times. But that is not for them to decide.
All we have to do is decide what to do with the time that is given to us."

paul
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On 7/21/2015 5:52 PM, dhondt wrote:

55AEDB56.5060609@eircom.net" type="cite"> One of the problems with these long range predictions is that they don't take enough account of positive feed back loops Paul. When sea ice melts the exposed water takes up a lot more heath than the ice ever did. And in many permafrost places methane is belching up in enormous quantities.

There was an article in Arctic News a good year ago with good scientific math explaining that the Northern hemisphere could have an extermination event in 15 years time. The Southern hemisphere would have the same 20 years later. I have seen nothing yet that might have me think this to be untrue.
I'm sure we will find out what the truth is in time.
John

On 21/07/15 22:37, herb farmer wrote:

55AEBBA3.3050201@lobo.net" type="cite">
Hansen et al actually did make it far more urgent:

Earth’s Most Famous Climate Scientist Issues Bombshell Sea Level Warning - 10 feet+ in as little as 50 years
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/07/20/sea_level_study_james_hansen_issues_dire_climate_warning.html?wpsrc=fol_tw

The point I'm stressing is the new role of "Regenerative Agriculture". Heavily documented.
https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/regenerative-agriculture-annotated-bibliography

It's not just about food security in a warming world; it's also about the only feasible way for for stopping or reversing rise of CO2 & global warming disaster. OR it COULD have been.

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On 7/21/2015 1:04 PM, dhondt wrote:

55AE97BD.90900@eircom.net" type="cite"> Unfortunately by 2100 means not in our life time or even that of our children meaning no rush for almost all people. I think there is a fair chance we and not just the polar bears will all be extinct long before then. Imo the situation is past critical and the vultures are going to drill the Arctic with a better than 80 % chance of a major oil spill in the next two years.
Of course we personally must do what we can.
John

On 21/07/15 06:44, herb farmer wrote:

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Two-degree target may still cause catastrophic sea level rise, James Hansen warns

Hansen is longtime NASA scientist

http://www.nationalobserver.com/2015/07/20/news/two-degree-target-may-still-cause-catastrophic-sea-level-rise-james-hansen-warns

But this one paragraph caught my eye:

This, combined with a rapid transition to renewable energy and more efficient forestry and agriculture practices to sequester carbon, would reduce atmospheric carbon dioxide levels down to a safer level 350 parts per million by 2100, helping to restore the Earth’s energy balance

That can only refer to the Rodale-MIT trials on Regenerative Agriculture. Which we work with in some form.

paul

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