Healthy soil and sustainable growing

[Dan Conine <dconine@bertramwireless.com>]

> Six Decades of Leisurely Deterioration for the U.S. Masses in a Mess
>
> http://www.culturechange.org/cms/content/view/775/65/
> by Jan Lundberg
> reactions?
>
> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
I don't think anything has changed much since Roman times. People figure out 
how to make profits, they use whatever means are available to make as much 
profit as possible. The government grows to meet the demands of the 'leisure' 
class(which is busy exploiting conquered territory for personal gain), and 
eventually, everyone at home becomes lazy and stupid amid libraries full of 
stolen books. The civilization collapses and it starts all over again.
It just so happens that the 'territory' which America exploits is the future, and it does so with the energy (petroleum) and skills of the past. 
I don't think it really matters what is being done, or whether people are rich or poor, motivated or leisurely. What matters is whether their actions are taking from their own future (can you say "leveraged debt") or building resources and stability beyond what they consume.

We are at the tail end of the Consumer Empire/extinction event. We have spent the last 100 years or so replacing people's labors with petroleum. The people who were replaced are valueless until the petroleum runs out, and by then, generations have passed without the skills to live without petroleum. 

I mentioned Rome, but we are closer to Spain's empire, where generations of 
'free' gold created a leisure empire also. When the gold ran out, they fell 
into the stone age. Black gold has the same effect as the yellow kind.

Dan C.
Belgium, WI