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Today's Topics:
1. Re: weevils in beans/lentils? (Debbie McDonald)
2. Re: Gardening on Construction Fill (Arzeena Hamir)
3. How Agri-Food Corporations Make the World Hungry (Tradingpost)
4. Michael Pollan on ?Food Rules: An Eater?s Manual? (Tradingpost)
5. Re: weevils in beans/lentils? (Norma Sutton)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:27:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Debbie McDonald <lbirke1@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] weevils in beans/lentils?
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Well, I was hoping I could still use them:) The odd thing is there is no sign of anything having been eaten on ?? Now dried peas in a bag, they decimate those?? I had to throw all those out.
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From: Pete Vukovich <pvukovic1@yahoo.com>
To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 2:37:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] weevils in beans/lentils?
Probably a great question , all I could find was a usda chart including weevil damaged lentils, but I have no idea what it means. Curious why not just wash them out like any other bug and cook the lentils? Unless most of them are damaged then I guess I'd personally toss them unless making compost tea (wanna make sure I drown out the weevil eggs).
If somebody can explain the table to me it would be great! Don't quite understand dockage-free requirements either, but it was interesting so I looked at it.
http://archive.gipsa.usda.gov/reference-library/standards/lentils.pdf
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From: Debbie McDonald <lbirke1@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Livingontheland] weevils in beans/lentils?
To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 1:55 PM
I rinsed some lentils and beans today and guess who floated up. They are dead but it is weevils. Must I throw all this out or feed it to the animals or would?you think it is allright to rinse till they are gone and cook it? I can feed it to the chicken and maybe the wild birds will eat it otherwise.?I was lax in getting buckets in time and putting it with DE:(?
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:39:32 -0800
From: Arzeena Hamir <arzeenahamir@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Gardening on Construction Fill
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Funny you mention the earthships. We have friends who own one in Taos,
NM and they're in a bit of a dilemma. Move back to Taos where they
have great house but no long term water to grow food or stay here in
the PNW where we have tons of water but super high housing prices.
They're looking at ecovillages here.
I work with a non-profit group trying to encourage more people to grow
food, purchase local food, and support local farmers. One of our
exciting programs is to launch a farm school (Farming 101 for non-
farmers). The average age of our farmers is 57 here and no new farms
have started in the last 4-5 years. We've lost a few in that time.
Land prices are outrageous. We do have an Agricultural Land Reserve,
started in 1973 by the provincial government that restricts
development on agricultural land but it's been diluted over the years
and developers are just playing a waiting game, purchasing
agricultural land and then applying for exemption from the reserve. If
you're looking to purchase anything under 5 acres in Richmond, you're
looking at $500,000 an acre. Obviously no serious farmer can afford
that so we're now trying to encourage leases and land sharing.
We've started 4 new community gardens in the last year and I'm
targeting 4 more this year (2 are underway). Lots of interest in fruit
tree pruning, growing food, and preserving techniques. I have a great
job!
Interestingly enough, funding for us doesn't come from the City but
through our health authority. Health sees food security as an
important part of disease prevention.
Arzeena Hamir MSc. P.Ag.
Coordinator
Richmond Food Security Society
http://richmondfoodsecure.blogspot.com
coordinator@richmondfoodsecurity.org
http://twitter.com/arzeena
On 9-Feb-10, at 11:16 AM, Tradingpost wrote:
Looking it up I see Richmond is at Vancouver in BC. Your Food
Security Society is doing impressive work and I'm glad to know of
it. If you want to tell us more about your work please do. I'm in NM
and I've seen the earthships tho I'm not impressed with them ;-)
Suggest people look at that link
http://richmondfoodsecure.blogspot.com
paul tradingpost@lobo.net
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On 2/9/2010 at 7:38 AM Arzeena Hamir wrote:
I would head the advice of the nursery. Along with possible
hydrocarbon contamination, asphalt also contains heavy metals.
Eighteen to 24 inches would be my recommendation. Here, our local
landfill does yardwaste composting and sells this material for about
$5 a pickup. It's not particularly nutrient rich but provides the
'fluff" to fill beds.
Arzeena Hamir MSc. P.Ag.
Coordinator
Richmond Food Security Society
http://richmondfoodsecure.blogspot.com
coordinator@richmondfoodsecurity.org
http://twitter.com/arzeena
On 8-Feb-10, at 5:02 PM, Jennifer Hamilton wrote:
I normally lurk on this list...but I need some advice. I want to
start
a garden on my new place, but I am now finding that the area I
want to
plant is probably construction fill. I'm finding lots of asphalt
chunks.
Would it be worth my time to sift them all out or should I just go
straight to raised beds? If I need raised beds, how deep should they
be? I was originally thinking 12", but a local nursery advised
18". I
hadn't really planned on needing to buy dirt!
Any advice would be appreciated!
Thanks.
Jennifer Hamilton
Santa Rosa, CA
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:07:54 -0700
From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
Subject: [Livingontheland] How Agri-Food Corporations Make the World
Hungry
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How Agri-Food Corporations Make the World Hungry
Written by Al Huebner Tuesday, 09 February 2010
http://towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/1851/1/
ImageThe Winter 2009 issue of Food First News reports that last November the World Summit on Food Security in Rome issued a declaration that the world is now hungrier than ever before. Significantly, this is not the result of food shortage, with world production at 11/2 times that needed to feed every man, woman, and child on the planet.
The root cause of this insecurity is the food system itself, which is controlled by a handful of global monopolies. In fact, the crisis comes at a time of record global profits for the world's agri-food corporations. Archer Daniel Midland, Cargill, Monsanto, General Foods, and Wal-Mart all posted profit increases in 2008 of 20% to 86%. For Mosaic, a fertilizer subsidy of Cargill, profits increased by a stunning 1200%.
The World Food Summit did nothing to confront the hunger crisis. The lack of any political will in Rome was so low that not one head of state from a G-8 country showed up (except for Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, who of course lives there). With a shocking lack of commitment the G-8 representatives decided to drop the goal of ending world hunger. Now the rich countries need only work to halve hunger by 2015.
In a situation with many parallels, in November the US Department of Agriculture reported an alarming increase in food insecurity in the US; one in seven Americans don't get enough food throughout the year. The USDA report refers to household food shortages, yet in the US, as in the world, there is no food shortage. An obvious question comes up: why, in the most productive farming country in the world, do we have so many hungry people? The answer is that families simply don't have enough money to buy the food they need.
The reasons for this aren't hard to find. The nation's food workers make up 18% of all workers in the US. But those who pick, process, pack, and serve our food are the lowest paid of any industry. This is analogous to the global situation, where most of the world's hungry are poor farmers. In both cases women and children suffer the most.
While more than 1 billion people in poor countries aren't sure where their next meal is coming from, many chronically food-insecure countries are selling their land, as Raphael Grojnowski reports in the same issue of Food First News. Sudan, Ethiopia, and Cambodia, for example, have already sold nearly 40 million hectares of their best agricultural land to foreign investors, mainly from the Middle East, China, and South Korea. This is a classic imperialist land grab that, like those familiar from the past, leads to a steady deterioration of the condition of human beings, not to mention degradation of the environment.
Spurred by the global food-price crisis and supply shortages in the volatile world food market, wealthy but food-deficient countries are buying up vast tracts of land, especially in Africa. There they expect to grow food and fuel long distance. Promising new technologies and employment to some of the world's most neglected areas has many poor governments rushing to attract these new investments.
These land deals are negotiated in total secrecy and are having devastating effects on local farmers and their families. To make room for the new foreign mega-farms, small farmers are being dispossessed of their land. In their place, huge monoculture plantations to feed foreign consumers are being established, using industrial farming techniques that have extremely damaging environmental effects, such as chemical contamination of rural water supplies.
While many peasant organizations are relentlessly drawing attention to this devastating land-grabbing, the UN and other agencies have been characteristically slow to act. At last year's World Food Summit three UN agencies and the World Bank finally announced plans to draft a code of conduct for such "foreign land acquisitions." But the proposed guidelines are only a non-binding and voluntary code. Worse yet, its implementation is scheduled for late 2010, leaving investors another year to make secret deals for prime agricultural real estate overseas.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:16:26 -0700
From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
Subject: [Livingontheland] Michael Pollan on ?Food Rules: An Eater?s
Manual?
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Michael Pollan on ?Food Rules: An Eater?s Manual?
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/2/8/michael_pollan_on_food_rules_an
February 08, 2010
the author of The Omnivore?s Dilemma and In Defense of Food, discusses the link between healthcare and diet, the dangers of processed foods, the power of the meat industry lobby, the ?nutritional-industrial complex,? the impact industrial agriculture has on global warming, and his sixty-four rules for eating. ?The markets are full of what I call edible food-like substances that you have to avoid,? says Michael Pollan. ?So a lot of the rules are to help you, you know, navigate that now very treacherous landscape of the American supermarket.? Today we air an excerpt of the Oscar-nominated documentary Food, Inc. and then spend the rest of the show with Michael Pollan. [includes rush transcript]
LISTEN
WATCH
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/2/8/stream
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:22:29 -0500
From: Norma Sutton <sweetspringfarm@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] weevils in beans/lentils?
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Hi Debbie,
I would just wash, cook and eat. But then . . . my dad was navy during
WWII. Back then when the supplies on ship got buggy they put in the black
lights and ate what they had.
Norma
On 2/10/10, Debbie McDonald <lbirke1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, I was hoping I could still use them:) The odd thing is there is no
sign of anything having been eaten on ?? Now dried peas in a bag, they
decimate those?? I had to throw all those out.
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*From:* Pete Vukovich <pvukovic1@yahoo.com>
*To:* Healthy soil and sustainable growing <
livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
*Sent:* Wed, February 10, 2010 2:37:51 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Livingontheland] weevils in beans/lentils?
Probably a great question , all I could find was a usda chart including
weevil damaged lentils, but I have no idea what it means. Curious why not
just wash them out like any other bug and cook the lentils? Unless most of
them are damaged then I guess I'd personally toss them unless making compost
tea (wanna make sure I drown out the weevil eggs).
If somebody can explain the table to me it would be great! Don't quite
understand dockage-free requirements either, but it was interesting so I
looked at it.
http://archive.gipsa.usda.gov/reference-library/standards/lentils.pdf
--- On *Tue, 2/9/10, Debbie McDonald <lbirke1@yahoo.com>* wrote:
From: Debbie McDonald <lbirke1@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Livingontheland] weevils in beans/lentils?
To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <
livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 1:55 PM
I rinsed some lentils and beans today and guess who floated up. They are
dead but it is weevils. Must I throw all this out or feed it to the animals
or would you think it is allright to rinse till they are gone and cook it? I
can feed it to the chicken and maybe the wild birds will eat it otherwise. I
was lax in getting buckets in time and putting it with DE:(
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