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  • From: su do <speakingbeareturns@yahoo.com>
  • To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Food miles and distance
  • Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:44:50 -0700 (PDT)

We pay "road taxes" whether we drive or not. There are
also toll roads, but those are usually targeted at the
commuter traffic. We need to use less gas, period. Oh
believe me, they will find another form of tax to
cover any losses.
--- activism98201@verizon.net wrote:

> I'd like to stress the point of transportation
> becoming a tipping point.
>
> If not for all the private vehicles paying all those
> road taxes the cost of transporting via trucks would
> be, if not impossibly expensive, incredibly
> expensive. As people start driving less (which WILL
> happen) the cost of goods transported will start to
> skyrocket.
>
> Remember that "tipping point" is slightly to one
> side of center/middle. The Guardian recently
> published an article
>
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,,2196435,00.html)
> stating that Peak Oil occurred last year (2006).
>
> Reformulating hubs, as Dan points out, will be
> imperative.
>
>
> -Mark Nagel
> Everett, WA
>
>
> =====================
> From: Dan Conine <dconine@bertramwireless.com>
>
> I commented somewhere else about this article. It
> doesn't consider the
> economics of local foods properly, and all of the
> factors that go with
> centralized management of resources. Local food is
> basically a long-term
> thinking issue, not an immediate ecological or
> global economic one
> (which is how we get 'efficiency' experts to take
> over our food supplies).
>
> In the long term, diversified food supplies and
> distributed labor forces
> will be necessary as the trucking companies go out
> of business from the
> high costs of fuels. If we think about switching to
> train
> transportation, it is better to have local places
> for people to take
> their products (these used to be called 'towns') for
> the train to pick
> them up. This whole interstate and massive road
> system is designed by
> city-based thinking, where everyone is supposed to
> live in ever-larger
> cities, sucking the life out of the land through a
> network of roads and
> pipelines.
>
> If you reverse that system, the cities have little
> to offer the land
> that can be delivered through pipelines or roads,
> whereas a distributed
> population of people has a lot to offer the land in
> terms of husbandry.
>
> The local foods movement isn't about the food as
> much as it is about
> having local people who are valuable to the land,
> but that's too
> abstract for the news to report.
>
> Dan Conine
> Belgium,WI
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