Healthy soil and sustainable growing

["TradingPostPaul" <tradingpost@riseup.net>]

And the bottom line is, fossil fuel use for food production is going to
decrease as prices continue to rise over the long term. There is no good
substitute for petroleum and natural gas. Every alternative has its
drawbacks and limitations. The good news is we can produce more and better
food without using any fossil fuels.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 5/13/2007 at 2:06 PM TradingPostPaul wrote:

>The "oil shale" in Colorado is misnamed; it's just rock that can be ground
>and processed to yield kerogen which is only a chemical precursor to
>petroleum. Apparently it has some use when refined, but the process uses
>more energy than the energy yield from the final product. There isn't any
>actual oil that can be pumped out. The holdup isn't the price of petroleum
>at all; it's the fact that it's production is a net energy *loss*. A
>negative EROEI. The more you produce, the more money you lose. 
>
>Now the shale they're drilling into in TX isn't the same thing at all.
>They're able to get gas and oil there. Still, the oil business in TX
pretty
>much died years ago, and the U.S. oil production peaked about 1970. There
>are no new significant discoveries in this country. This is all common
>knowledge in the oil industry. Gas drilling got a boost recently from
>special tax breaks but without those subsidies there'd be almost no new
gas
>drilling in this country. 
>
>paul tradingpost@lobo.net
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>On 5/13/2007 at 12:03 PM Gloria Baikauskas wrote:
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>>Then why are they drilling all over the Barnett Shale in Texas where I
>>live?  You can't go a block in some areas without finding a new gas
>>well.......and I know that isn't oil....but they say after they take the
>>gas they are going after the abundance of oil they found there, too.  
>>   
>>  Gloria
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