Healthy soil and sustainable growing

["TradingPostPaul" <tradingpost@riseup.net>]

Thanks Dawn, it needed to be more explicit about related matters. I
modified the list description page to include your wood question as well as
others with related concerns in the past, all about sustainable use of the
land. 
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/livingontheland

Here's how it reads now:

Intensive, organic soil building is basic to growing much more in less
space with better nutrition, more profitable growing through less bought
inputs, less need for water, fewer losses from pests and disease, and less
vulnerability to fossil fuel problems now or in the future. What ways this
can best be pursued in different soils and climates leaves a lot of room
for discussion. We deal with the widespread problems of loss of soil
minerals, humus, nutritional content of produce, and loss of topsoil
itself, as well as the cost-price squeeze faced by real organic growers,
the shrinking supply of affordable land for growing and irrigation water,
and the need to increase the supply of nutritious food while making healthy
food more affordable in general. Our generation cannot continue to plunder
the soil capital of future generations.

We include sustainable food growing from home garden to market garden,
fruits, nuts, berries, fungi, and vegetables, in addition to food and work
animals. This extends to management of the homestead, land, and forest as
it relates to sustainable food production, as well as sustainable use of
the land for human habitat.

Living On The Land is not a commercial forum for profit promotions, nor a
chat forum, and is sensibly moderated to ensure discussions are related to
the topic.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 3/2/2007 at 6:59 AM TradingPostPaul wrote:

>I consider woodlot management implied in the subject, living on the land.
>My description goes on to say, We include sustainable food growing from
>home garden to market garden, fruits, nuts, berries, fungi, and
vegetables,
>in addition to food animals. In nature, I don't think you can separate the
>soil from the vegetation, the grasses, the trees, and the animals that all
>work in symbiosis. It's not like importing ornamental trees for strictly
>esthetic reasons, but we've had posts about clearing brush for
shade-loving
>perennials, using trees for shade in the heat or for windbreaks.
>Woodsplitters can be used for fencing too. 
>
>If I need to change the wording I can do that too.
>
>paul tradingpost@lobo.net
>
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>On 3/1/2007 at 11:43 PM Dawn M. Ripley wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the encouragement, Paul, but according to the list home at 
>>http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/livingontheland, Living on the 
>>Land is mostly about soil building:
>>
>>>Intensive, organic soil building is basic to growing much more in less 
>>>space with better nutrition, more profitable growing through less bought

>>>inputs, less need for water, fewer losses from pests and disease, and
>>less 
>>>vulnerability to fossil fuel problems now or in the future. What ways
>>this 
>>>can best be pursued in different soils and climates leaves a lot of room

>>>for discussion. We deal with the widespread problems of loss of soil 
>>>minerals, humus, nutritional content of produce, and loss of topsoil 
>>>itself, as well as the cost-price squeeze faced by real organic growers,

>>>the shrinking supply of affordable land for growing and irrigation
water,
>
>>>and the need to increase the supply of nutritious food while making 
>>>healthy food more affordable in general. Our generation cannot continue
>>to 
>>>plunder the soil capital of future generations.
>>
>>
>>We've discussed things related to the homestead, of course, but I didn't 
>>think it was the list's primary purpose, hence the disclaimer.
>>
>>I'm planning to burn the wood I split in my glass-enclosed, woodburning 
>>fireplace.
>>
>>Dawn
>>
>>
>>At 09:36 PM 3/1/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>>>Not sure what the wood gets used for, but it doesn't look off topic to
me
>>>...
>>>
>>>paul tradingpost@lobo.net
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>>>On 3/1/2007 at 11:12 PM Dawn M. Ripley wrote:
>>>
>>> >Dear friends,
>>> >
>>> >I'm thinking about buying an electric DR woodsplitter.  While the
>>> >gas-powered splitters may well be more portable and more powerful, I
>>can't
>>>
>>> >afford them.
>>> >
>>> >Anybody out there have any experience with them, for good or bad?  Or
>>with
>>>
>>> >DR products in general?
>>> >
>>> >Thanks in advance,
>>> >
>>> >Dawn
>>> >
>
>
>
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