Healthy soil and sustainable growing

["TradingPostPaul" <tradingpost@riseup.net>]

Let's see - if we don't take it on blind faith and buy what you're pushing
then we're ignorant? 

And if we have doubts, then it's us who are obligated to spend our time and
money to investigate for hard evidence, instead of those who are pushing
those compost tea machines? 

You ignored it, but Dr. Melendrez explained why compost tea can't
effectively make humus for soil building, and the link I sent showed
several unanimous studies that showed ACT is useless for supressing soil
pathogens. That University of Washington soil scientist you're condemming,
you know nothing about. You're grasping at straws. You're desperately
trying to paint all those studies as the work of Big Chemical, with no
evidence whatsoever to back up such a claim. And trying to slur independent
control studies as no better than anecdotal evidence. This is really bogus.
 You not only refuse to come up with hard evidence to back your claims, you
diss all the evidence you find inconvenient. I think this list is tired of
that line. Move on. 

paul, tradingpost@riseup.net
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Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes. 
--Henry David Thoreau 

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On 6/16/2006 at 7:44 AM Ryan Albinger wrote:

>My point was we take anecdotal evidence for fact and use it daily and
>often
>be used to make important business decisions.  Then to hold compost tea in
>contempt because of a university specialist (and likely university ties
and
>financial contribution from Big Chemical) refuting A.C.T. and many, many
>other biological products on the basis of a few poorly done experiments
and
>of no greater value than anecdotal evidence, is tipping the scales quickly
>to one side.  And spreading other people's anecdotal evidence as near
fact,
>is just gossip.  Give it a whirl, don't spend a lot of money, do the best
>you can according to the best methodology known, and tell us how it works
>versus a control.  "Research, experiment, learn, repeat" with all
potential
>profitable practices.  There is a quote that I can not think of that
better
>fits many of situations.  It is used often by Gary Zimmer of Midwestern
>Bio-Ag and originally stated by Bryan Davis, farmer.  "Condemnation
without
>prior investigation enslaves one to ignorance"
>Ryan
>