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[Steven Champeon <schampeo AT hesketh.com>]

on Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 03:30:26PM -0500, Tarus Balog wrote:

<snip difference of opinion on Rackspace>

> I doubt we will ever agree on this, but as someone who gets several  
> hundred spam e-mails a day, I understand the pain. So I'll summarize my  
> points and let you have the last word:
> 
> SPEWS, because of their unprofessional and shotgun approach to spam,  
> will not be used by me. It's inelegant, like bombing a country because  
> there is a hint of weapons of mass destruction. Better safe than sorry,  
> with no recourse after the fact.

OK, fine - you don't have to use SPEWS. You're welcome to all the spam
you want. I just wish people who complain about SPEWS would understand
that there are /two zones/ - the first is a remarkably clean list of
hundreds of thousands of spam sources and spam-friendly ISPs. The second
is a much wider, punitive list, that may cause legitimate mail to be
lost. We use the former, but don't have any problem with people using
the latter; their network, their rules. 
 
> AOL, which probably has one of the largest problems with spam in the  
> world, has a much more professional way of dealing with it. I prefer  
> their methods, and would respect any system that was similar.

Sure - and they also represent the leading edge of the adoption of new
techniques for fighting spam, for requiring that mail servers be properly
configured before they'll accept mail from them, etc. They have to be.
Something on the order of 85% of all the mail they receive is spam.
 
> And I truly do love Rackspace - they are a great company and I like  
> having them as my provider. (grin)

I'm happy for you. I try not to support organizations that support spammers.
I seem to me to be insanely counterproductive.

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