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[Thomas Beckett <thomas AT tbeckett.com>]

There's a lot of information and misinformation out there.  Here's another 
point of view.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/TheTruth11_files/frame.htm

Note:  this is some kind of wierd powerpoint thing that only works in 
IE.  Apologies to those in MS-free environments.  Oh, and don't view this 
if you've eaten recently.

TaB

P.S.  I'm not endorsing the site, I don't know much about it.  But the PPT 
presentation is quite compelling.

At 11:28 AM 6/28/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> [WARNING: the following content may not be for everyone. use your own
> discretion] ...oh, and sorry for the 44KB attachment.
>
> since the last discussion of the middle east went so well, i figured folks 
> are
> just dying to continue that thread...
>
> a certain URL popped up in the strangest of places today. the URL is
> http://islamexposed.com/ and it appeared on an intrusion detection list in
> australia (ids AT uow.edu.au). of course, this post had nothing to do with
> intrusion detection and little to do with technology. but it *is* on the
> internet and since this group has "internet" in the name...
>
> the site explains what "being holy" is all about. i wish there was a bit more
> proofreading and QA on the site, so it could reach a larger audience and 
> perhaps
> be taken a bit more seriously. however, i imagine the author is doing the 
> best
> he or she can.
>
> there actually is a reason for attaching the image. from the beginning of 
> this
> fracas, what we have heard about is "islams failure to embrace modernity." 
> and
> from the beginning, i have argued that these people have already embraced
> modernity. framing it in this way is merely an excuse for rationalizing ones
> insane belief system. or excusing people from their own societal obligations.
>
> the picture came from:
> http://islamexposed.com/Pictures/face-of-Islam.htm
> and is a perfect example of how delighted these folks are to wear a Nike 
> t-shirt
> while idolizing hatred and murder.
>
> believe me, this is a very toned down version of something i wrote over six
> months ago. the most basic ideas revolve around the sorry truth of the 
> situation
> - the people who have the means to effect change in their own society would
> rather spend their money to destroy and revile another culture.
>
> another culture that they secretly feed off of, yet publicly decry.
>
> how is that satellite tv?? are all 400 channels "muslim-approved?" you're not
> watching any "Friends" re-runs back there, are you Ahmad??
>
> enjoying good medical care? ya know, like, in a HOSPITAL? with, like, 
> MACHINES
> and ELECTRICITY? (well, i bet the women don't have access to it).
>
> is the Benz driving alright? or does it need a tune-up? you can drive the 
> Rolls
> while it is in the shop.
>
> are your investments in US real estate paying off? how about your avid use of
> our educational facilities? are they treating you well on campus? got a good
> parking spot?
>
> and last but not least - SEX. that most reviled and disgusting of acts. 
> one that
> should not exist, let alone be made public. are you enjoying Thee Dollhouse
> visits and the occasional whore? you certainly don't want any records kept of
> those excursions for fear that you will be stoned when you get home.
>
> yeah, the united states is a sh*tbox. we really are causing the downfall 
> of the
> world. i just wish those who were so against it had the backbone to abstain.
>
> as not to be unfairly slanted against islam, there is also a link to:
> http://christianityexposed.com/
>
> now, we can go back to discussing SUV's and "where to find the best Chinese
> grocer" -or- we can try to discuss something important. i'm sure someone will
> want to pick apart my argument. at least an attempt at that would be more
> palatable than telling me this is a technology list.
>
> thanks for reading.
> dave m.
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