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  • From: jcuthrell AT ixl.com
  • To: internetworkers AT franklin.oit.unc.edu
  • Subject: Re: more subjective history question
  • Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:44:50 -0500


Netscape Enterprise^H^H^H^ iPlanet is alive... and well. In fact, there are
many applications and systems out there that still have the NSAPI version.
You can always ask app server companies about Apache. You can ask if they
can supply a .so or something like it for those wanting to use Apache or a
variant as the web server. Once in a while, you get lucky. The app server
developer waxes nostalgic over gcc and how they use it internally. Hey, it
can happen.

I still like how NES is sprayed all through the http responses on iPlanet
myself.
:)

People talk about Apache vs. IIS, but I think the more interesting
discussion is iPlanet vs. IIS. The latter represent the majority of API
development that is commercial. Plus, these are two SSL ready out of the
box packages. Yes, there are lots of Apache variants that do SSL in one way
or another both commercial and DIY/RYO. I just know that in the real
world[tm] of institutions that like commercial support and/or partner/vendor
commitment timelines, you have interesting maneuvers from IIS and iPlanet
camps.

For java application servers, the real sticking point is always how many
connectors are bundled with the base package. I want to connect to as many
things as possible and sometimes you want to try things out without paying
for development licenses OR having to work with a defeated capacity
development license.

Has anyone out there ever wondered why licensing has gotten so darn complex?
It is as if the people that do product management at commercial ware firms
got burned early in their careers (by non paying freebie seekers).

disclaimer: I use both Apache, iPlanet, IIS, and the aforementioned
commercial app servers in my day job and my views dnnrtome.

-----Original Message-----
From: Josep Lluís Guallar Esteve [mailto:jlguallar AT maduixa.net]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 12:48 PM
To: InterNetWorkers
Subject: [internetworkers] Re: more subjective history question
[snip]
So, when Apache made his big apeareance on the server market and IE was
given
for free in the client market, Netscape was doomed.
[snip]




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