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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

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From: "DSanner106 AT aol.com" <DSanner106 AT aol.com>
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Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 1:09:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Science

Definately, 
    Gore left office worth less than a million dollars, and  is now just a 
few years later, somewhere in the 250 million dollar range. He  started the 
company that sells carbon emission credits. When people raised  questions 
about his wastefulness, with his mansion, heated pool that uses the  energy 
of 
dozens of homes, SUV's etc. , he said is was ok, he had purchased  carbon 
credits to cover this. He bought them from himself, and is raking in  
millions from companies the govt. is armtwisting over factory emissions. If  
everyone just sends a few billion to Gore, than we don't have to worry about  
actually fixing factories or driving cleaner vehicles, right??

Drew


In a message dated 10/22/2009 12:18:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
cayadopi AT yahoo.com writes:

In  criminal cases and fraud cases ----- Quo Bono?

Follow the money.  Follow the power.

Gore stands to make billions off of this.  
Developing nations stand to make billions.
The UN and IMF gain  power.

What does that UK guy stand to  make?





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From:  "DSanner106 AT aol.com" <DSanner106 AT aol.com>
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Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 12:04:10  PM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Science

Exactly Rob,
My father was a research chemist and one of  the things he told  me
when I asked questions about my science classes was not to take what  
they were saying as gospel. He said science is generally a series  of
If-Then statements combined to reach a conclusion. Often they  found  they
were wrong when science advanced enough to answer a few of  the  If-Then's.
In medicine, what they originally thought were  diseases actually turned  
out
to be symptoms of problems they were  never aware of. If you listen to them 
though, they will tell you with  complete confidence that you need leeches 
or one of many other incorrect  measures. 

My big problem with the whole global warming debate is that  it's biggest 
spokesman, like Gore and other politicos have absolutely no  background  in
science to make good guesses or understand the  guesswork of the real
"experts". There are 10s of thousands of scientists  weighing in on this 
and 
they are split widely on whether this is real or  not, and if it is whether 

man 
plays any role in causing or  preventing it. Gore flunked science classes  
in
college and now we are  not allowed to challenge him on his suppositions, 
as 
the reporter in Great  Britain did this week. He was quickly stifled and  
Gore 
didn't  answer a thing, just made fun of the guy. Politicians are forming  
our 
healthcare system with no knowledge of health care, we have tax  cheats  
running
our tax system. The guys who oversaw Fannie and  Freddie are still  doing 
so 
and
are on our budget committees.  Knowledge is apparently overrated. 

Drew


In a message dated  10/22/2009 11:05:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
waltonrp AT gmail.com  writes:

The  global warming thread makes me think of something  that's been on
my mind  lately. That is that scientists talk of their  theories as if
they were  fact. It's annoying, and I think that  sceintists should
learn from the  mistakes of their past. (The earth  is not flat.)

I saw a program on the  latest find of a prehistoric  human like fossil
in Ethiopia. Evolution of  man following the theory  that they presented
was presented as a fact. Same  with doctors. They  have very limited
understanding of how the human body  works, but they  present their
theories as fact. Anyone for a  bleeding?

I'm not  supporting any one mode of thought, I even think that  it's
good for  our leaders to be advised by scientists. Understanding  that
science  deals in theory and hypothesis is most important.

Rob -  Va

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You're correct if all the water that was frozen was already in the ocean as 
ice. The 10% of the icebergs that are above water would simply fill in for 
the 90% that is below with no net gain.

I think the issue was always about the glaciers melting. This is water that's 
not already part of the ocean and would eventually end up causing some 
increase in sea levels. Enough to flood New York City - I don't think so. 
Though I wouldn't be buying land in Louisiana or the Netherlands anytime soon.

Gil

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On Oct 22, 2009, Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com> wrote:



Of course, the first thing that popped to mind was.... an ice cube tray.  I 
don't know about everyone else's ice cube trays, but when I fill mine right 
smack to the top, when it turns to ice the ice is higher than the water 
was........ leading me to conclude that water expands when frozen, and 
contracts when melting.  Is this somehow different in the ocean?  If not, 
then it is yet another scam being perpetrated on US taxpayers..........


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