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  • From: "Jerry W. Shepperd" <shepperd AT mail2.pvco.net>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Zucchini and Cucumber Recipes
  • Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:04:10 -0500

James,

You are right. Chicha is made from corn, not potatoes.

Jerry

At 09:53 PM 7/21/2009, Clansgian AT wmconnect.com wrote:


> >I also sampled Pisco, the national drink of Peru, and chicha, a mild
> fermented drink made from potatoes

Potatoes?? Really? I was there many, many years ago and all the chicha
was made from corn.

James
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Lynn Wigglesworth wrote:
If you recall, there was also a big stink about people accessing Joe the Plumber's records. People do things like that. I assume if there had been any juicy information about Obama, we'd have heard. We sure got juicy trash about Joe.

Maybe, maybe not. The contract workers passed all kinds of background checks-different caliber of person-because their job did entail looking at passport information, they just had no official business looking at the passports of candidates(McCain and Clinton files were also accessed). Personally, I don't think the passport breech of privacy issue has anything to do with the passport questions Berg and others have. I think it is a weird coincidence.
But after what I refer to as the Edwards incident, I no longer assume that the media will report the juicy truth because the MSM is more Democratic than Republican, which is strange to me considering the way Republicans defend the freedom of the press.


The records might say how long Obama's had a US passport, but they don't record where you have been. I had a passport in the late 1970's, and travelled to several foreign countries...when I came back, they DID NOT record where I'd been (i.e. what stamps I had). Remember, everything was done by hand and paper then; no global databases. They just recorded that I re-entered the country and checked to make sure it was a legit passport.

I have to trust you on that one. My only passport experience was when I got one for my kids.


You get a new passport when the old one expires; I assume most people throw the old one away, like old Drivers' Licenses (could you produce your Drivers' License from 28 years ago if you needed to prove something?).

My state confiscates them. However, I can produce every report card, transcript, tax return, paycheck stub, etc. that I have ever received. I don't have a passport, never had one, but I do have my diplomas, my thesis papers and most college notebooks and textbooks....doesn't everyone? :)
Lynn, when I applied with the CCPD, my application was a spiral bound notebook. I had to list the address of every place I had ever lived, etc. etc. It took two weeks to reproduce my life in a traceable form, but I did it. Passing that gave me NCIC clearance, something that all police officers have-a pittance when it comes to security clearances. Someone like Obama would have a paper trail in triplicate. His mother married twice, divorced twice, he was adopted, he traveled to multiple countries, etc., and if he doesn't personally have it at his disposal, he could certainly have the FBI document his movements over the course of his life.

I don't know why I'm defending Obama, except that all this smacks of a witch hunt.

Of course it is a witch hunt. It is the same kind of witchhunt presidents (and candidates) have endured since Watergate eroded our trust in such matters. The trouble is, even though Bill Clinton said over and over, 'I did not have sex with that woman', he did, and the villagers with the pitchforks knew it all along. Doesn't make the tactics right, but that's the way it is and that's why we have trouble getting good leadership. By the same token, it is not just the people with pitchforks...the media entices the crowd over the loudspeakers.


People demand a Birth Certificate, and he gives them one, a legitimate
one that is accepted by the federal government as proof of citizenship, but it's not good enough. I don't know if you trust any website, but Factcheck.org actually touched and photographed the birth certificate, and are convinced that it's real.

Factcheck is owned by Annenburg and since they have a connection to/association with Obama, I think they should have recused themselves on this one, for appearances sake.


Hawaiian officials have stated that it's real,
and that they have the original. But there will never be enough proof for some people. There's no point in Obama wasting energy defending himself from people like that.

I personally believe the certification of live birth Obama produced is authentic. I just think he could have and should have produce the long form certificate, the certificate not the certification, and more than that, like Drew has asked, why does he have legal teams retained to make sure that his certificate does not get released?



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