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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Everyone around me grows tomatoes in the desert.  They all seem to do the 
same thing.  Start them indoors a month ahead of time in small pots.  And 
when the go to transplant outside, they lay them near horizontal on the 
ground and cover up most of the steam (to encourage more rooting).  And 
nobody stakes them up - to help keep humidity around the plants and keep lots 
of foliage around/over the 'matoes --- the opposite of what you'd do in other 
places.  
 
I had bought some of those upside down hanging things that I was going to 
grow tomatos in when I moved here.  Ha ! No way, the wind was too strong.  
But maybe I can find a place on the east side (non-windy most of the time) of 
my parents house and experiment with them.  Or maybe use them in the fall 
when the wind is lower..... as long as I remember to water water water.....

--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Sage Austin | Eureka! Design <eureka AT hctc.net> wrote:

From: Sage Austin | Eureka! Design <eureka AT hctc.net>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Tomatoes, for the seriously space challenged
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Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 12:34 PM

I experimented with this the year before last and it was a disaster. I 
did not buy the official product, but made my own from recyclables too. 
For areas with high temps such as ours, the roots just baked to death 
and the tomato plants suffered and eventually died without providing fruit.

--Sage



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Agree, not only on AC but heat also.  I have yet to understand why people 
want to heat homes to 80 degrees, or even 70 or 60 for that matter.
 
Just need to adjust the way things done.  I.E. not out in the hottest parts 
of the day when it is 110 degrees out - heat stress is pretty quick.  And 
wear more layers inside when the temps aren't warmed up.
 
Remember when they made it a law that buildings would be maintained at 80 
degrees with a/c?  Why not do the reverse in the winter and limit heat to 
55-60 degrees?  
 
har har har ---- wants vs needs ---- that is a rude awaking coming down the 
road (on a lot of different levels)....
 

--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net> wrote:


Or perhaps you folks need to start using less A/C.  It is time that folks 
elsewhere did the same instead of expecting more and
more energy to support their "wants" not their *needs.*


--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Lynda <lurine AT com-pair.net> wrote:

 



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Ha, designed my chicken coop (based on function, etc), and then had to argue 
for hours with my dad over each point (I gave him something to do - calc out 
supplies needed to build).... but bottom line is we will likely make the long 
trip to town this week to buy the supplies.
 
 
On another disconcerting note, I ordered some chicken wire this week - and 
learned that it is getting harder (i.e only one roll left) for the locals to 
order supplies from their suppliers - something about businesses going out of 
business....  So I think I will add extra chicken wire (and other wire) on to 
my supplies list, in the event I need some in the future.
 
 
Now as to PIGS ---  I have never raised one personally, but my brother has 
(but he is a schizo and can't exactly get me answers I'm looking for - his 
responses are pretty comical at times....)
 
I'm on 10 acres, with most of the buildings located in a small area about 
100-200 feet from the SW corner.  
 
At some point, I want to raise some pigs, and I'm wondering if there is 
anything in particular I should think about for site selection.  And, is the 
pig area super smelly, if so how far away from my mom's house in particular 
should I be planning,,,, I think she wants to forget some of her farming 
roots.... i.e. the smell of pigs....
 
Thinking about this now, before I select site for chicken coop, etc.
 
 



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Leslie, Rob or someone else 'doing it' will give you advice on the best way 
to raise your pigs; but I can tell you that if you only have a few, pigs 
don't necessarily 'smell' up an area any more than any other animal.  

And, if I might say, pigs are intelligent and very interesting to observe..I 
have known a number of people with schizophrenia; your brother's comical 
answers about the pigs might be truer than you imagine.  Pigs can make you 
laugh -- except wehen they escape into the woods and then they make you 
holler :-)

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--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Homestead] pigs
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 5:44 PM
> Ha, designed my chicken coop (based on function, etc), and
> then had to argue for hours with my dad over each point (I
> gave him something to do - calc out supplies needed to
> build).... but bottom line is we will likely make the long
> trip to town this week to buy the supplies.
>  
>  
> On another disconcerting note, I ordered some chicken wire
> this week - and learned that it is getting harder (i.e only
> one roll left) for the locals to order supplies from their
> suppliers - something about businesses going out of
> business....  So I think I will add extra chicken wire (and
> other wire) on to my supplies list, in the event I need some
> in the future.
>  
>  
> Now as to PIGS ---  I have never raised one personally,
> but my brother has (but he is a schizo and can't exactly
> get me answers I'm looking for - his responses are
> pretty comical at times....)
>  
> I'm on 10 acres, with most of the buildings located in
> a small area about 100-200 feet from the SW corner.  
>  
> At some point, I want to raise some pigs, and I'm
> wondering if there is anything in particular I should think
> about for site selection.  And, is the pig area super
> smelly, if so how far away from my mom's house in
> particular should I be planning,,,, I think she wants to
> forget some of her farming roots.... i.e. the smell of
> pigs....
>  
> Thinking about this now, before I select site for chicken
> coop, etc.
>  
>  
> 
> 
>       
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