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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

"Flatbrød"  (from my Norwegian cookbook)
 
2 cups rolled oats
1 1/2 cups whole wheat flour
1/2 cup white flour
2 tblsp sugar
1/2 tsp salt
1 1/2 cups water
1/2 cup melted butter
 
Put the dry rolled oast into th e blender.  Blend and it will become flour in 
a few minutes.  Sift with the other flours, sugar and salt into a bowl and 
mix in the water and melted butter with a pastry blender to make a  nice 
smooth dough.  Chill.
 
The flatbrød will be a bery thin, so use a canvas-covered board or plastic 
pastry sheet and a stockinet-covered rolling pin.  Flour board and pin 
slightly.  Grease a cookie sheet.  Roll out a piece of dough to fit it.  
Since you might tear the thin dough while lifting it to the pan, roll it up 
on the pin and roll it out onto the pan.  Trim hang-over pieces.
 
If you have a riflet-kjevle this is the time to roll it over the dough to 
make a pattern of holes.  If not, prick dough with a fork.  Mark the dough 
into cracker sized pieces.  
 
Bake 350 degrees for about 10 mins.  If you put the pan on the bottom rack 
first, then shift it to the top rack, it will acquire a nice tan without 
burning.



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I think I remember something along these lines about pine trees.   As the 
pines get older, they don't make as much sap, which would normally pushes the 
beetles out, so the beetles get to invade.  As the pines die off hardwoods 
take hold. 
 
At least it goes something like that in S. FL.


--- On Tue, 1/6/09, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:


The pines here are dying from pine beetles.  



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Oh piffle!  Well, sort of.  Farriers make a bundle off of once foundered
horses and in most cases it is a game.  *Most* aren't in need of all that
care.  And, IF they need shoes, they need them a whole lot more often than 3
or 4 times a year!

I've bought, owned and bred many a mare who had been foundered at one time
or another.  The degree of founder is the concern.  Once foundered, it takes
an alert owner to make sure they don't founder again, but most only have
problems because people can't be bothered to carefully regulate their diet.

For starters you need to know why the horse foundered.  How severe the
initial (acute stage) founder was.  And have they foundered since.

Laminitis is quite common in rich grass areas, in draft horses, in ponies
and in over-weight horses (both backyard and show).  If the founder was
pregnancy induced, then you need to know why.  Was it due to retained
placenta (a not totally uncommon occurance) and if so, you have your shot on
hand and have the vet out immediately to be sure there is no retained
placenta.

All in all not something that can't be, generally speaking, easily managed.

Lynda
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From: "EarthNSky" <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>

> I'm in the same situation as Rob...in fact, I was offered a horse for
> free...(Ron said no<g>..drats!)  the problem is that the mare has
> foundered in the past, and according to her owner, she must see the
> farrier three or four times a year for work and shoes...I had the same
> thought as Rob about breeding her, but I'm told that would kill her as
> her hooves wouldn't hold up. do you agree with that assessment?