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  • From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
  • To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Pokeweed and in the pokey
  • Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:21:31 -0700 (PDT)

Sandy; I had to look up "Rosebud"(found that it is Sioux, as you know). When
someone says "Rosebud", I automatically think of Hearst.

It is strange how people move in and out of a person's life. Too many.
bobford



--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Bunjov AT aol.com <Bunjov AT aol.com> wrote:

> From: Bunjov AT aol.com <Bunjov AT aol.com>
> Subject: [Homestead] Pokeweed and in the pokey
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 9:08 PM
> Hi, Bob -
>
> Yeah, I felt sorry, too...but it took a while.
>
> The best friend I mentioned happened to be a Rosebud child
> whose parents had
> been banned from the S.D. reservation because his father
> was a mean drunk.
> When he and my son first hooked up, they were about 11. His
> mother eventually
> got a job at Anheuser-Busch in Van Nuys, and they lived for
> almost a year in a
> van in the alley behind our apartment building. She was
> never able to get
> into an apartment because her husband drank up her every
> paycheck.
>
> I will admit that my thinking has always been colored by
> empathy, and some
> kind of 'identification' issue and endless
> 'cloudy' memories that I'm not sure
> are even mine. Nothing gets my back up faster than
> disrespect for The
> People...be they Navajo or Sioux or Hopi, or anything else.
> To me, they're all "The
> People".
>
> The mom's name was Jenny, and she and my son developed
> a special
> relationship - which I encouraged, because she was a really
> nice lady who worked hard. I
> used to do her taxes. They are the same family that took
> this same son with
> them, at age 14, back to the reservation for a visit...and
> now he is a
> computer geek who talks to trees. So do I. We're out
> here.
>
> I did have to draw the line, though, when the boys would
> raid my freezer and
> take all the meat downstairs to the family's BBQ
> set-up, and I would arrive
> home from my second full-time job and be greeted by
> delicious aromas wafting
> up from the alley while I had nothing to eat.
>
> Years after I had moved to another part of the San Fernando
> Valley, my
> downstairs buzzer would ring at 2 in the morning, and
> I'd switch the TV to Channel
> 6, and I could see who was downstairs waiting to be buzzed
> in. It was always
> the best friend - Barry - with no place to go, and always
> hungry.
>
> He still wore his hair in the shoulder-length page-boy, and
> was always
> appreciative of a good meal, a shower, and a change of
> clothes. He never grew
> much, over the years, and was destined to be of short
> stature, big-boned, and
> hefty. I figure the lack of exercise was from just standing
> around waiting to
> see where his next meal was coming from.
>
> Aside from the boys' 'escapades', he always
> treated me with the greatest
> respect.
> I had told him many years earlier that as long as I had a
> place, he'd have a
> place.
>
> I don't know where he is, but I wish him well. He'd
> be welcome here today.
>
> Sandy
> Mid-Mojave
> I know there are websites that deal with Native American
> registries. I am
> ashamed of myself that I've not taken the time to try
> and find him, and the rest
> of the family. They are special people from my past - and
> my past-past.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/17/2008 7:12:29 P.M. Pacific Standard
> Time,
> bobford79 AT yahoo.com writes:
>
> Sandy, 'sorry; I didn't notice that it was
> directed just to me; Yes it did
> show up. And, I felt bad for your kid :) ....bobf
>
>
> --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Bunjov AT aol.com
> <Bunjov AT aol.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Bunjov AT aol.com <Bunjov AT aol.com>
> > Subject: [Homestead] Fwd: Pokeweed
> > To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 8:04 PM
> > Hi, Bob -
> > I had meant this to go to the list, also - did it
> ever show
> > up?
> > Sandy
> > Mid-Mojave
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________
> > From: Bunjov
> > To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com
> > Sent: 10/17/2008 5:21:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
> > Subj: Re: [Homestead] Pokeweed
> >
> >
> > They do indeed exist. I've priced them on Ebay
> and they
> > go for a gazillion
> > dollars. At one time I had a priceless collection of
> > 45's, given to me by the
> > owner of the local 'dive', who was a good
> friend.
> > My youngest son and his best friend, in their
> mid-teens
> > (experimenting with
> > alcohol - or something!) decided to play Frisbee with
> > oncoming traffic one
> > midnight in the middle of Van Nuys Blvd.
> > Needless to say, you can imagine his dismay when I
> let him
> > rot in jail until
> > his court date.
> > Karma lives, and I'm it.
> > Sandy
> > Mid-Mojave
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 10/17/2008 5:12:18 P.M. Pacific
> Standard
> > Time,
> > bobford79 AT yahoo.com writes:
> >
> > I remember the song, Sandy. On every jukebox (Do
> > jukeboxes still exist?)
> > I just googled to see what year the song came out and
> was
> > made curious by
> > the blurb about poke salad, which it said should be
> said
> > "poke sallet" (from
> > some old english word that means 'cooked'
> greens).
> > I don't remember if people pronounced it one way
> or
> > the other ...bobford
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Bunjov AT aol.com
> > <Bunjov AT aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Bunjov AT aol.com <Bunjov AT aol.com>
> > > Subject: [Homestead] Pokeweed
> > > To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > > Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 6:01 PM
> > > There are photos and more information on the
> site.
> > > Doesn't anyone remember
> > > the song - maybe mid-seventies - "Poke
> Salad
> > > Annie"?
> > > Sandy
> > > Mid-Mojave
> > >
> > > _http://www.altnature.com/gallery/pokeweed.htm_
> > > (http://www.altnature.com/gallery/pokeweed.htm)
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Pokeweed
> > > Phytolacca americana
> > > Other Names: Poke Salet, American Pokeweed,
> > Cancer-root,
> > > Cancer jalap,
> > > Inkberry, Pigeon Berry, Pocan, Poke, Poke Root,
>
> > Pokeberry,
> > > Reujin D Ours,
> > > Sekerciboyaci, Skoke, Virginian Poke,
> > Yoshu-Yama-Gobo,
> > > Yyamilin
> > > Caution : Toxic when misused. For experienced
> > herbalists
> > > only. Can cause
> > > intense vomiting and diarrhea.
> > > Habitat
> > > Pokeweed is a common perennial native plant,
> found
> > in
> > > Northern and Central
> > > N. America from the New England States to
> Minnesota
> > and
> > > south to Florida and
> > > Texas, naturalized in Britain and other
> countries.
> > Growing
> > > in damp rich soils
> > > in clearings, woodland margins and roadsides.
> > Cultivation:
> > > Pokeweed is an
> > > easily grown plant, succeeding in most soils
> and
> > full sun
> > > or partial shade. The
> > > stout erect stalk is tall, growing to 10 feet
> or
> > more,
> > > smooth and branching,
> > > turning deep red or purple as the berries ripen
> and
> > the
> > > plant matures. The
> > > root is conical, large and fleshy, covered
> with a
> > thin
> > > brown bark. Leaves are
> > > about 5 inches long and 2 to 3 inches wide,
> simple,
> > > alternate,
> > > ovate-lanceolate, and smooth. The flowers which
>
> > appear
> > > from July to September are
> > > long-stalked clusters and each has 5 whitish
> petals
> > with
> > > green centers. The fruit is a
> > > rich deep purple round berry, containing a rich
>
> > crimson
> > > juice. Gather young
> > > edible shoots in spring, the roots in fall,
> slice
> > and dry
> > > for later use, and
> > > berries as they ripen.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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